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Old 06-17-2011, 11:51 AM   #401
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I new here, but have enjoyed reading this discussion on the mighty Braumeister. I have a 50L and so far only two brews ...but I love the simplicity and ease of use (worst part is lifting the malt pipe - I'll eventually rig an electric winch for this).
What I am wondering is if anyone here has set up a Beersmith equipment profile for their Braumeister? I'd be grateful if someone would post theirs.

Thanks!

Great forum. good to be onboard ;-)

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Old 06-17-2011, 01:44 PM   #402
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Welcome roomfullofmirrors!

I use BeerTools Pro and until you posted, hadn't even thought of trying to add the Braumeister into the equipment profile. I will have to check into that.

Hopefully someone else who has Beersmith can chime in. Just wanted to say welcome!

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Old 06-17-2011, 10:29 PM   #403
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Thanks Yambor44. I'm from the BIAB school of brewing originally, and have been playing around with a few different profiles based on the BIAB experience ...I was just interested to see if anyone has actually got a profile nailed down for the Braumeister.
Thanks again for the welcome ;-)

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Old 06-18-2011, 12:30 PM   #404
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Hello folks,

I programmed my BeerSmith with the following parameters for BM50:
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Equipment Profile: BM50
Batch Size: 35.00 l

Mash Tun Volume: 55.00 l
Mash Tun Weight: 24.00 kg
Mash Tun Specific Heat: 0.12
Lauter Tun Deadspace: 0.00 l

Boil Size: 38.50 l
Boil Time: 90 min
Evaporation Rate: 10.0 %
Calculate Boil Size: FALSE
Kettle Top Up Water: 0.00 l
Hop Utilization Adjustment: 100.00 %

Trub/Chiller Loss: 0.00 l
Cooling Loss: 1.00
Top Up Water into Fermenter: 0.00 l
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Please look that my batch size was set for 35 L, but I think that the parameters will not change so much for 50 L.

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Old 06-18-2011, 01:19 PM   #405
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Hello folks,

I programmed my BeerSmith with the following parameters for BM50:
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Equipment Profile: BM50
Batch Size: 35.00 l

Mash Tun Volume: 55.00 l
Mash Tun Weight: 24.00 kg
Mash Tun Specific Heat: 0.12
Lauter Tun Deadspace: 0.00 l

Boil Size: 38.50 l
Boil Time: 90 min
Evaporation Rate: 10.0 %
Calculate Boil Size: FALSE
Kettle Top Up Water: 0.00 l
Hop Utilization Adjustment: 100.00 %

Trub/Chiller Loss: 0.00 l
Cooling Loss: 1.00
Top Up Water into Fermenter: 0.00 l
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Please look that my batch size was set for 35 L, but I think that the parameters will not change so much for 50 L.

What is your actual output volume? Do you sparge (after removing malt pipe) or just drain?

Thanks for your post
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Old 06-18-2011, 01:40 PM   #406
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What is your actual output volume? Do you sparge (after removing malt pipe) or just drain?

Thanks for your post
Is 30 L and I just drain the malt pipe.....I'm performing a non sparging mashing. It's work very well!
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Is 30 L and I just drain the malt pipe.....I'm performing a non sparging mashing. It's work very well!
My first batch output volume was 40L and a higher OG than my expected target. The second batch was 50L and right on target OG after a "sparge" at mash out.

Basically, after lifting the malt pipe out I ran about 1 litre per Kg of 80°C water through the malt pipe while the temperature is rising to boil.

Only my first two beers, but either method seems to give favourable results.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:28 AM   #408
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Here's my Beersmith equipment profile for my 50L, so far...

Equipment Profile: BM50L
Batch Size: 50.00 l

Mash Tun Volume: 60.00 l
Mash Tun Weight: 24.00 kg
Mash Tun Specific Heat: 0.20
Lauter Tun Deadspace: 0.50 l

Boil Size: 54.00 l
Boil Time: 90 min
Evaporation Rate: 6.5 %
Calculate Boil Size: FALSE
Kettle Top Up Water: 0.00 l
Hop Utilization Adjustment: 100.00 %

Trub/Chiller Loss: 3.00 l
Cooling Loss: 4.00
Top Up Water into Fermenter: 0.00 l

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How does that compare with you other brewers using the 50L ?

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:15 AM   #409
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Hi everyone,

I was finally able to brew on my new Braumeister so I thought I'd write a report for you here and show off the little modifications supplied by my store here in Australia. I've also posted a report here on the Aussie Site

This 50L Braumeister is a graduation gift from my wife. When it arrived I was impressed by its compact size and quality build.

Firstly I should mention that I took my time during my first brew. It was quite a long brew day. I actually don't think the BM will save me much time, but it is much easier and I can leave it to mash / boil unattended while I do other things (like bottle a previous batch), and clean up is quite simple. But time saving wasn't why I purchased this system. My main reasons were consistency batch to batch, full electric brewing, and size.

Also, I'd like to disagree with those that think the BM is an automated system and therefore the brewer is hands off / less involved. I still mixed the mash at dough in, did a small manual sparge and added hops to the boil. Compared to a my old 3v system, the only things I didn't do was to calculate strike temp, manually recirculate and clean 3 vessels and extra hoses and taps (also I didn't have to constantly tweak gas output for the boil or worry about boil overs). I still had all the joy of being the brewer, I just used a machine to recirculate and hit temps. Essentially it allows me to do the fun parts of brewing without some of the annoying parts. I think its basically the same as any herms or rims system, just it all happens in the one vessel (ie, mash in then set temps and allow to recirculate and ramp up).

Anyways... on to the brew!

In with the malt!



Here is a photo showing the size of the unit (I'm about 5 foot 10). Its compact, but not small. Also, you can see the nice draw string upgrade MHB adds to the filters. These make life SO much easier than the standard filters and the workmanship is equal to the quality of the BM.



An idiot with his new toy. Again you can see how much easier the draw string makes handling the filters and keeping them correctly located. This image is just after stirring in the mash.



Here is the wort shortly after recirculating begins. This is a Dr Smurto's Golden Ale.



The computer showing that we're warming up from mash in at 50 degrees to the first rest at 66. The BM seems to ramp at about 1 degree per minute. This was with no insulation, on a breezy day of about 15 degrees. I'm happy with that, but I'll experiment with insulation too



About half way through the mash, crystal clear wort... nice!



Lifting the malt pipe was a bitch. Even with two blokes it was awkward. The suction was the killer. I plan to make a little bench for my BM with an overhead manual winch. This means I'll be able to brew solo if needed too.



After the mash had drained for 5 mins or so I sparged (a rinse really) the grains with 1L per kg of malt at 80 degrees. This didn't make the wort cloudy like I feared it might (rinsing in the opposite direction to the recirculation flow).



The boil went well. Its not a raging boil, quite gentle really. But it is constant and did give me at least 10% boil off. I whirlpooled then cooled using a plate chiller via gravity into a 60L fermenter. I only extracted 43L rather than the 50L I planned, but my efficiency was still over 85% (mash efficiency). I'm very pleased with that! Also the whirlpool worked very well despite all the elements at the bottom of the BM. I ended up with 43L of clear 1.057 wort.

Cleaning was a breeze apart from the elements inside the BM. These had a light coating of break material the needed to be wiped off, a fiddly job as there are so many element coils. I think in the future I might recirculate some warm PBW after a quick hose out while I clean up the rest of the brew gear and aerate / pitch yeast etc. I think this would clean the elements and pumps well. Tipping the unit upside down and quickly dismantling the pumps for a rinse was a breeze.

All in all a very successful brew day. I can see the BM will add a great level of control to my brewing and I'll be able to learn a lot by having predictable gear and repeatable processes. This should allow me to tweak recipes and actually track the differences.

Anyways, this has been long enough, thanks for reading. Any comments or questions welcome!

Cheers,

Dave.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:51 AM   #410
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Sensational Dave!!!

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