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Old 12-07-2011, 08:25 PM   #1121
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My Braumeister came in yesterday and I brewed the first batch on it today. All in all, it was really nice being able to key in a mash schedule and not have to manually bother with it. I do have a couple of concerns/suggestions.

I brewed a hopbursted IPA. I can say without question: DO NOT use whole leaf hops in the Braumeister without a bag. You WILL clog the ball valve and have to search manically for an auto-siphon to get the rest of your wort out.

Also, this has been mentioned before, but the high position of the outlet ball valve is plain ridiculous. The manual actually suggests you try to create a whirlpool, but by the time you've nearly tilted the damn thing on its side to get your beer out, it's nearly pointless. Looks like I'll be fashioning a dip tube as some here have done.

Other than that, it seems to be a well-made device that certainly simplified my brew day.

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Old 12-07-2011, 09:16 PM   #1122
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My Braumeister came in yesterday
Congrats, happy brewing.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:12 PM   #1123
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My Braumeister came in yesterday and I brewed the first batch on it today. All in all, it was really nice being able to key in a mash schedule and not have to manually bother with it. I do have a couple of concerns/suggestions.

I brewed a hopbursted IPA. I can say without question: DO NOT use whole leaf hops in the Braumeister without a bag. You WILL clog the ball valve and have to search manically for an auto-siphon to get the rest of your wort out.

Also, this has been mentioned before, but the high position of the outlet ball valve is plain ridiculous. The manual actually suggests you try to create a whirlpool, but by the time you've nearly tilted the damn thing on its side to get your beer out, it's nearly pointless. Looks like I'll be fashioning a dip tube as some here have done.

Other than that, it seems to be a well-made device that certainly simplified my brew day.
Dip tube is the way to go. I was worried about mine touching the element but never had a problem. I think (hope) they will fashion one from the factory before its over with (hopefully soon). I'm holding out on my 20L in hopes some small but important changes (to me) will come down the pipe.

According to everyone I have polled, there are no such plans for any changes, but I can always hope!!

Congrats on your new BM. Once you have that dip-tube fashioned and get a few brews under your belt, you are going to absolutely love this thing!
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:01 AM   #1124
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I'm holding out on my 20L in hopes some small but important changes (to me) will come down the pipe.

According to everyone I have polled, there are no such plans for any changes, but I can always hope!!

Congrats on your new BM. Once you have that dip-tube fashioned and get a few brews under your belt, you are going to absolutely love this thing!
Oh, I already know I'm going to love it. I've actually been looking for beers with ridiculous mash schedules just to put this thing through its paces.

I'm in the process of opening a commercial brewery and I talked to Thorsten about the 200l Braumeisters. He advised me to order quickly because stainless steel prices are going up. HOWEVER, he also said improvements were being made. Now, does that mean improvements only to the 200l? Hopefully not. We can dream, right?
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My one concern with this machine is that they say not to brew over 1.060.

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Old 12-08-2011, 05:34 PM   #1126
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My one concern with this machine is that they say not to brew over 1.060.
I used 6 kg of grain once and that gave me 1062 OG. Pump was struggling but managed. if you search the thread a few months back you'll see a lengthy discussion on this - more than 6kg has been used with good results. And there are ways to tweak the system and method to increase OG > 1060.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:57 PM   #1127
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My one concern with this machine is that they say not to brew over 1.060.
I hit 1.066 yesterday with enough room left in the malt pipe for at least another couple pounds of grain and the pump didn't seem to have any trouble at all.
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I hit 1.066 yesterday with enough room left in the malt pipe for at least another couple pounds of grain and the pump didn't seem to have any trouble at all.
What was the total weight of your grain bill?
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:06 PM   #1129
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Finally another brewday for me this Sunday. I'm thinking something like this:

Recipe: Kelheim Weissbier-10.08lbs-5gl
Style: Weizen/Weissbier
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.61 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.61 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.26 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 14.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7.81 gal Toronto Ontario, Canada Water 1 -
6.36 lb Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 63.5 %
1.60 lb Pilsner (Weyermann) (1.7 SRM) Grain 3 16.0 %
1.60 lb Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 4 16.0 %
0.45 lb Caramunich I-51L (Weyermann) (51.0 SRM) Grain 5 4.5 %
0.32 lb Rice Hulls (Mash 167.0 mins) Other 6 -
8.50 g Hallertauer Hersbrucker [3.10 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 7 4.7 IBUs
5.90 g Northern Brewer [7.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 8 7.4 IBUs
19.50 g Hallertauer Hersbrucker [3.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 1.9 IBUs
1.0 pkg Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP300) [35.49 ml] Yeast 10 -

Mash Schedule: Braumeister-20L-Ferulic-Light
Total Grain Weight: 10.02 lb
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash-In Add 25.00 l of water and heat to 111.0 111.0 F 20 min
Saccharification Heat to 150.0 F over 22 min 150.0 F 60 min
Mash-Out Heat to 170.0 F over 11 min 170.0 F 10 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 1.20 gal water at 170.0 F
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This recipe is based on a BYO magazine article and the book Brew Classic European Beers at Home.

The first Wheat brew I made on the Braumeister was bottled about a week and a half ago with 1.5L Speise. While it is still young and undercarbonated, the beer is good and has many of the attributes I was looking for. I'm hoping that a less complex mash schedule will have comparable results, I have a long list of Wheats todo. This brew, I would like to see how much of a difference the rice hulls will make to the recirculating flow and overall results.

The Tripel Karmeliet approximation I made last brew stalled out and needed a boost from a bit of Wyeast 3711, that should have no problem chewing through all that raw grain. The mash schedule used on it just happened to be gleaned from Phil's Farmhouse Ales. This time of year the basement is good for starting fermentations but is getting too cool for my secondaries, bottle carbonation is also taking a bit more time. Fortunately the family doesn't mind the fermenters throughout the house and my 3 1/2 year old figures its just another component to the beer robot (Braumeister).

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Old 12-09-2011, 05:37 PM   #1130
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Got myselt an upgrade today; the copper hat.

Looks good and I hope this will work to get rid of most of the steam when brewing indoors
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