FiveKaiBrewing

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Any one have experience with this machine? I was thinking of going all grain the old fashioned way but after seeing this I am pretty impressed.

THey are about 2 hours north of me so I might go check them out.

let me know what you guys think..

FiveKaiBrewing

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I also found this unit which is comparable in price and does a larger quantity at a time.

http://www.brumas.com/geraete_e.html

this is ball the Brau Eule

any feedback on which unit is better.

it seems that the speidel one has a rep here in florida and does also wine products so support might be better for it?

ocluke

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There are videos of it in action on the manufacturer's website.

When I contacted the manufacturer overseas they told me that they would soon be sold through MoreBeer. I have no idea when, but you may want to contact them to see when they will be selling the product rather than go through that Florida outfit.

FiveKaiBrewing

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any reason why you wouldnt want to go through these cats in FL. I do agree that morebeer seems more Established but if you have any issues please share

Inodoro_Pereyra

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Looks like you can't sparge with it?

FiveKaiBrewing

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from what i was reading you can sparge by pulling out the malt tube and placing it on top of the system. this reduces the volume and then you just pour preheated water over the malt and it drips into the boil kettle. I read this on an australian brewing forum where more people have used this unit. I also saw another forum that was in german but had pictures of the procedure it looks simple.

Inodoro_Pereyra

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Hmmm...if I understand you right, then you need an extra pot to preheat the sparge water. Also, sparging is normally done by slowly sprinkling the hot water over the grain bed. Standing on top of the MLT with a pot full of hot water doesn't seem efficient, or safe...

FiveKaiBrewing

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the mlt or malt tube has special legs that turned to the side is made to keep the malt tube above the boil pot so it can drain at this time what they do is pour heated water in to the tube to increase the overal volume and sparge

Inodoro_Pereyra

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Yeah, I got that part. Actually, the "malt tube" was a "grain bucket" in my mind...
My point is that, once you got the malt tube hanging over the MLT (the Mash Lauter Tun, the big pot), the sparge water has to be sprinkled slowly over the grain bed. I don't see how you can do that manually, with just a pot of 170*F water.

samc

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When you analyze the device you start to see that it is a hot water or coffee urn modified with a fairly simple digital controller. They are asking a lot for it, which if you don't mind spending is a pretty cool looking unit. You can build one for a lot less $$$.