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Old 01-16-2008, 06:05 PM   #11
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:25 PM   #12
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5 is not enough: is the only person that answered your question.

CO is produced when most of the available oxygen is used up so ventilation is imperative. Not just exhaust ventilation but fresh air must be brought in.

Here's what I'd recommend to anyone considering using a turkey fryer indoors:

Get yourself a carbon monoxide detector, they are relatively cheap and they are effective. Without a CO detector you are just guessing.

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Old 01-16-2008, 06:34 PM   #13
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Get yourself a carbon monoxide detector, they are relatively cheap and they are effective. Without a CO detector you are just guessing.
Now that is smart thinking! (I'm adding that to my copy & paste response)
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:37 PM   #14
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Heck, I even leave my deck door open when using my range. The damn thing has two burners going and going for like 90 minutes... I figure if I have the place all closed up that would be a bad thing!

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A CO detector and adequate ventilation are key.

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Old 01-21-2008, 03:49 PM   #16
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Yes, I'm late to the party. Yes, I'm going to step on a soapbox.

I've thought about doing the same thing. Propane inside, how bad can it really be? It's damn cold out and it's nice and comfy inside. Well, about two weeks ago I found out the hard way how bad it can be. This was my wife's uncle.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/m...talfire09.html

I'd love to think that we're all smarter than this, but accidents happen and they can be catastrophic. I'm not one to tell people what to do in their own home, but just weigh the good vs. the bad. Sure he had a few propane tanks inside that made it even worse, but one was all it took. Ventilation and a CO detector wouldn't have done anything. In hindsight, it was not the wisest choice to heat the trailer or cook with.

Now I'm off the soapbox.

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Old 01-21-2008, 04:49 PM   #17
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...This was my wife's uncle.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/m...talfire09.html

I'd love to think that we're all smarter than this, but accidents happen and they can be catastrophic....
Not to be a complete jerk, but there is a difference between an accident and stupidity.

Lets say you're going to paint your house. An accident is getting paint where you didn't intend it. Stupidity is not being prepared in case such a thing happens, or doing it anyway knowing the consequences or being ignorant of them.

Inside the home, firefighters found an "inordinate" amount of propane, including several "barbeque-style" containers and additional larger propane containers, Montgomery said. The propane is believed to have caused the two explosions, officials said. Montgomery said the victim was thought to have been heating his home with the gas.


There are other ways of brewing indoors like using heating sticks (which were mentioned in the last issue of Zymurgy). Of course they have their own risks like electrocution, etc.


Can you use propane to brew indoors? Yes!

Can you do it safely? That depends! Heck there are UL listed propane burners for indoor use.
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My posts were not about leaving propane tanks in your house or leaving propane burners unattended.

Just to be clear, here.

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+1 on the CO detector...
for that matter, you should have a few of them in your home, anywhere near a source of heat that could be producing CO... I have one near my gas fireplace and near my gas furnace.

As to cooking with it indoors, I have a friend who's entire house is fueled by LP, the oven, the furnace, the water heater, EVERYTHING... and the oven has not killed anyone yet... well... unless you take into consideration her cooking

You just have to take into account the things stated above, a clean burn, monitor any possible CO, and enough return air to resupply O2 to the room, and drive off the CO2.

If I remember correctly, there are even a number of LP space heaters that are now available that are indoor rated. My local hardware store sold out of those quickly last winter when the power was out for seven days.

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The world is full of danger. you could get hit by a fiery meteor, you could get run over by a garbage truck, you could trip and poke out your eye with a stick, you could get a drop of honey on your pants from an english muffin and get mauled by a bear. I just ordered a turkey fryer and will use it in the garage, I will not curl up in the fetal position under a coffee table, just because I "may get hurt.' Live free and die hard.

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