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RotorHead6 01-16-2008 02:47 PM

Safety of Using Propane Burner Indoors
 
Since it is so cold outside up here I would really like to avoid going outside to brew of the simple fact of opening and closing the door a 100times and letting cold air inside. Lets face it, heating your home in the winter time isn't cheap!!

My question it how much CO does a standard propane turkey cooker give off? Would it be unsafe to operate indoors near the stove with the overhead hood running that extracts outdoors? I don't want to fill the house with CO which just isn't good.

Any input would be great.

srm775 01-16-2008 02:50 PM

It's a tough call. Some people do it, others don't. Some compromise and brew in the garage. Really you should search and make a determination on your own.

Indoor brewing

Evan! 01-16-2008 02:56 PM

It's simply not worth it. If you want to do it inside, you'd need to vent that CO anyway, meaning you'd be pumping out just as much if not more conditioned air than you would if you were opening the door a bunch of times. I'd suggest getting everything ready to go and putting it all outside, so you're not opening the door too much.

Soulive 01-16-2008 03:00 PM

How cold is too cold to brew? I did my first AG in 15F with a 3F wind chill. Just wear the proper clothes and layer them. I'd do that way before killing braincells with CO. That's what the beers for!

the_bird 01-16-2008 03:08 PM

I do all my mashing inside, just the boil in the driveway. That's mostly to facilitate the mainenance of mash temps, though. Really, you can cheat and run inside for much of the boil, once you get past the hot break. That is, if it's too cold for you... ;)

GloHoppa 01-16-2008 03:09 PM

yeah you would need to do it in a well-ventilated area. carbon monoxide poisoning is no way to end a brew day

RotorHead6 01-16-2008 03:14 PM

Thanks for the input. I wasn't too worried about the air temps. being to cold for myself. I just didn't want to keep opening that door and letting cold air in. I just don't like giving the natural gas anymore money than I have too!! The raping they are giving us now hurts bad enough!!

beergears 01-16-2008 03:19 PM

Rotor,

Propane burning inside is not good.

Why couldn't you devise some flexible plastic sheeting over your door opening, in the same style as on loading docks..?

You could also equipt the door with a pneumatic cylinder, like the traditional storm door. Recalling the door should control the heat loss a great deal, no?

5 Is Not Enough 01-16-2008 04:38 PM

I use a propane burner indoors
 
I use (sometimes 2) propane burners indoors. One is 210,000 btu Banjo Burner and the other a 170,000btu generic burner. I use them both in my basement.

Here is my don't kill yourself with propane post:

DON'T BLOW YOUR A$$ UP BY USING A PROPANE DEVICE INDOORS! PROPANE WILL CREEP ACROSS THE FLOOR IF NOT BEING BURNED AND CAN IGNITE BY OTHER SOURCES OF FLAME(IE. W.H. PILOT LIGHT). KNOW THE SMELL OF PROPANE!

PROPANE MUST BE BURNED CLEANLY TO BE SAFE! BLUE FLAMES W/ YELLOW TIPS, OTHERWISE IT WILL GIVE OFF POISONOUS CARBON MONOXIDE! IF YOU SEE SOOT ON YOUR POT, YOU ARE POISONING THE AIR. (Propane when burned cleanly will produce carbon dioxide and water vapor)

DON'T BURN ALL OF THE OXYGEN OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND ASPHYXIATE YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS! VENTILATION IS NECESSARY! CLEANLY BURNED PROPANE RELEASES CARBON DIOXIDE - NON-POISONOUS GAS THAT CAN DISPLACE OXYGEN CAUSING A HAZARD THAT CAN CAUSE DEATH.

OPEN FLAMES INDOORS HAVE THEIR OBVIOUS DANGERS! KEEP A FIRE EXTINGUISHER NEAR THE BURNER AT ALL TIMES AND DO NOT LEAVE A FLAME UNATTENDED. KEEP KIDS AND PETS AWAY.

Oh yeah and, NEW BURNERS WILL NEED TO BE "BURNED OFF" BEFORE BEING USED INDOORS AS NAUSEOUS GASES CAN RESULT!

I work professionally around LP gas constantly, usually in very confined areas. It is a very safe gas when used properly. If you are capable of brewing beer, you SHOULD be capable of working around Propane.

TheJadedDog 01-16-2008 05:33 PM

I have mentioned this before as given my past experience with carbon monoxide poisoning (referred to now as "the time the apartment tried to kill us") I would HIGHLY advise AGAINST using any kind of propane burner inside. I know a bunch of guys do it and rig up ventilation and whatever, but you couldn't pay me to try it.


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