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View Poll Results: What's the best cleaner to soak a carboy in?
PBW 17 26.56%
Bleach solution 11 17.19%
Hot water 6 9.38%
StarSan 5 7.81%
Something caustic 1 1.56%
Something else 14 21.88%
Squeeze Ralph Nader through the carboy's neck w/ a toothbrush 10 15.63%
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:26 AM   #21
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i'll do whatever is on sale. They all work. I'll use bleach is nothing is on sale - but mostly use oxyclean b/c it can be picked up pretty cheap at target or at costco. PBW & straight A, etc. are all way overpriced IMO.

That said, bleach still does the job properly - just rinse twice.

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Old 10-15-2006, 06:16 PM   #22
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Bleach (yea I said that word). 2oz and fill with water. completely clean in 24-48 hours. Hot rinse afterwards. Cheapest stuff out there. But I do have oxyclean too so I could start using that; but I like bleach bottles for my ferm chiller...
Bleach, bleach, and bleach. It will completely break down any hardened residue (with little or no scrubbing with a brush) and remove stains as well.

Beyond being cheap (which is a good thing), you don't have to worry about getting back to it in an hour or two like Oxyclean. And 20-30 seconds over a bottle washer with hot water remove all traces of it (no soapy residue to worry about). After a couple days, it pretty much degrades, making it much easier on the environment than detergents - a feature Ralph Nader would appreciate without having to squeeze through that neck himself.

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Old 10-16-2006, 12:01 AM   #23
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I use water and a carboy brush immediately after emptying like Kornkob does. 5 minutes and it's clean. No need to fill the carboy, just get it wet inside and scrub away. Rinse every once in a while to see how well it's going.

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Old 10-16-2006, 07:34 AM   #24
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Beyond being cheap (which is a good thing), you don't have to worry about getting back to it in an hour or two like Oxyclean.
Why do you have to get back to Oxyclean in an hour or two? I don't. I've let bottles sit in water with Oxyclean for a couple of days, and in a carboy overnight. It may be that it becomes ineffective after a few hours, but that doesn't mean you have get back to it right away. It's already done the job, regardless.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:37 AM   #25
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I use water and a carboy brush immediately after emptying like Kornkob does. 5 minutes and it's clean. No need to fill the carboy, just get it wet inside and scrub away. Rinse every once in a while to see how well it's going.

Works fine.
After two weeks in primary, there is a hard crust of dried kraeusen above the level of the beer in the carboy that I am unable to remove with a carboy brush, even after soaking in water. After soaking in Oxyclean and water for an hour, however, no scrubbing is required. Just wave the brush around the inside of the carboy and all the stuck stuff comes right off. Less work than scrubbing as you describe.
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:41 PM   #26
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I've never encountered that. *shrug* And I think you are overstating the 'scrubbing' that I do. It's not that a much effort. Frankly, it takes me less time to clean my carboys than it takes me to fill one.

On the other hand, my beers rarely spend 2 weeks in the primary, so that might be part of it too. Initial fermentation is complete sometimes as soon as 3 days after brew and I've moved on to a secondary long before 14 days.

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Old 10-16-2006, 08:00 PM   #27
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Why do you have to get back to Oxyclean in an hour or two? I don't. I've let bottles sit in water with Oxyclean for a couple of days, and in a carboy overnight.
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Oxyclean with a several hour soak. Make sure you rise and don't let it soak too long or you'll get residue.
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After two weeks in primary, there is a hard crust of dried kraeusen above the level of the beer in the carboy that I am unable to remove with a carboy brush, even after soaking in water. After soaking in Oxyclean and water for an hour, however, no scrubbing is required. Just wave the brush around the inside of the carboy and all the stuck stuff comes right off. Less work than scrubbing as you describe.
I get the same effect with the high strength bleach solution. I ususally put off cleaning the carboy for a day or two and that ring gets pretty hard to scrub off. Last brew I did, the carboy sat for a week. I added bleach water and two days later the ring had disolved.
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I've always used bleach, and I've never even owned a carboy brush.

I just fill the bottle up to the top, with a couple ounces of bleach in, and let it set for a day or 2. Dump it out, put in a couple cups of clean water, and shake it up. Clean as a hound's tooth!

Now, I've been hearing, at the LHBS, (which is also a part-time job) that bleach will etch (or corrode) glass. Anyone else hear this?

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Old 10-17-2006, 11:55 AM   #29
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I don't use carboys

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Now, I've been hearing, at the LHBS, (which is also a part-time job) that bleach will etch (or corrode) glass. Anyone else hear this?steve
Sounds like someone's trying to get you to buy something else. Now, an acid maybe...
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