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Old 04-28-2008, 06:00 PM   #11
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I was told that PBW is great - it eats beer-stone - and that most people use it much more than they need to. Hot water and a cheaper cleanser with a PBW wash/soak every 4-5 batches while using Star-San for sanitization was highly recommended to me.

Haven't done it yet - been coasting along with what I have.

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Old 04-28-2008, 08:31 PM   #12
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I've used PBW exclusively for a few years now and love the stuff.

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Old 12-08-2009, 01:04 AM   #13
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Oxyclean is Sodium Percarbonate with detergent added (which is why it is hard to rinse). Really, get the cheap "Oxygen Cleaner" from the grocery store. It works by breaking down into hydrogen peroxide in the water.

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Old 12-08-2009, 01:21 AM   #14
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PBW works great, but it's ridiculously expensive. Sun oxygen cleaner is like a buck a pound and works pretty well.

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Old 12-08-2009, 01:48 AM   #15
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Oxiclean can eat stainless, so I try to avoid using it on stainless unless I have to, and when I do it's for only short soaks (<30 mins). Definitely get the oxiclean FREE, which doesn't have perfume and crap in it. BKF works miracles on stainless when scrubbing, I have no idea if it is useful for soaking to get grime off. I have just recently picked up some UBC (Austin Homebrew's answer to PBW), and so far I like it but I'm on the fence. It seems to rinse easier than oxiclean, and does a good job, and I really like the idea of being able to use it for long soaks on stainless steel, but it's still expensive... I know, in the grand scheme of things, it's far from being the most expensive part of my brewing process, but I still can't shake that nagging feeling of $$ every time I scoop out a bunch of it. Although it's probably a little too spendy to become my regular cleaning agent, I may stick to using it exclusively on stainless steel and copper and other things that oxiclean isn't nice to.
That is why I will not longer use it in my kegs Ever again. I can strech PBW for a long time rack from keg to keg or carboy to carboy.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:59 AM   #16
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I've been very happy with TSP. It's cheap, works very well, and available at most hardware stores.

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Old 12-08-2009, 02:03 AM   #17
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I was told that PBW is great - it eats beer-stone - .
My wife did turkey soup in 8 gal brewpot...

When I went to clean, the beerstone was gone !
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:33 AM   #18
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I am a PBW guy. PBW has a chelating aid so it does not contribute to scale/beerstone like oxy clean does. Of course, you can follow oxy clean with a separate sequestering agent, but that is not doing much for the cheapness or easiness.

Qualitatively speaking I think half strength PBW cleans better than oxy clean and it is possible to buy PBW in bulk (look for a group buy). Consider those factors before deciding that oxy clean is cheaper, it isn't for me.

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Old 12-08-2009, 03:03 AM   #19
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I've been very happy with TSP. It's cheap, works very well, and available at most hardware stores.
PBW is oxiclean (70%) + TSP (30%)
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:22 AM   #20
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PBW is oxiclean (70%) + TSP (30%)

In that case, if both are cheaper, why not combine them yourself?
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