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Old 09-16-2011, 04:48 PM   #1
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Default Opinions needed - Jet Burners - Spacing - etc.

So, I have been working on my brew sculpture as of late and have come to the point where its time to do some plumbing with my gas system (propane). I have been looking rather hard at what type of burners to use and I have pretty much settled on using either 3 - 23 tip jet burners. They are 60,000 to 160,000 btu rating or 32 - tip ones with the same btu output. Im sure that most will answer that the 32 tips will be better, more fire, faster boils and so on. I get this but I was wondering has anyone used the 23 tip ones and have they been adequate for your needs? Obviously if I can get away with the 23's they would be a little cheaper and possibly more efficient for my needs.

The setup to date is using 3 - 20 gallon kettles, hlt, mt, & bk gravity fed. I will probably be doing 10 gallon batches for the most part with the occasional 5 & 15. The most important thing at this point is: What spacing are you guys using in between the burners and your kettles? I am almost inclined to do an adjustable setup on my burners but that will take a lot more time yada yada.

The next inquiry is about regulation - I have been looking into various low pressure regulators for the application and I am looking for one that has good adjustment properties, pre-plumbed so to speak with about 2 foot of line already so I dont have to take additional time or worry about chasing down fitting leaks and so forth.

So with all that being said, Im hoping to hear some great input! Looks like it will be a great weekend to grab a couple of cold homebrews with your buds, sit back, relax and let fall take over!

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Old 09-16-2011, 05:30 PM   #2
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IMO, I would avoid the multi-jet burners altogether. The are designed to be operated at WOT. They have no means to adjust the air/fuel ratio. The large 32 jet versions are way overkill. JMO, nothing more. There are much better options available.

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WOT?

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WOT Way Off Topic
WOT Women on Top
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WOT Women-Only Training
WOT Work Order Ticket
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I use the 10 tip jet burners on my 20 gallon kettles. They work very well for me. I'm on NG, so a bit less BTU output than the propane versions. For strike water, I go from 75 to 160 in 30 minutes. For the boil, I start the burner after about 3-4 gallons are collected from fly sparging, so I don't know the exact time for getting to a boil when I'm collecting 14 or so gallons. I average 2.4 to 2.6 degrees rise per minute.

The 32 tip ones would be extremely overkill for 20G kettles. Even the 23 tip ones may be overkill. Many people have ended up removing some of the tips and putting bolts in there to lower the output of them. That's why I like the 10 tip ones. I have no issues throttling mine back. For my mash tun, I have it on high when I heat strike water, then I turn it down so that as it fires on/off to keep the mash at temp, it isn't hitting it with such high output.

The jet burners are loud!

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I'm in the midst of building a single-tier setup. I was thinking a 23-tip burner would be good for the hot liquor tank, no?

Is it the banjo burners that can be adjusted? I'm going to be using natural gas.

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Interesting perspectives, I thought I spied jet burners on some of the brutus 10 builds but maybe not. Either way I'm looking at cost effectiveness and propane usage as well if that helps. Also any idea about spacing from kettle bottoms?

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Check out the link to my build thread (in my sig). You can see the distance from the kettles with my 10 tip burners.

I wouldn't say the jet burners cannot be adjusted, but they can really only be adjusted from about 50 or 60% to 100%. They don't operate down low.

On the plus side, I like the smaller size of them and I think they are easy to mount as you can use your plumbing as the mounting apparatus.

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Catt, you said there were some better options available, what do you suggest? JonW done and done, nice setup!

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Catt, you said there were some better options available, what do you suggest? JonW done and done, nice setup!
A 6" ring type burner casting like this one would be my pick:

http://www.agrisupply.com/burner-cas...82/cn/5400000/

The burner shown is supplied with a low pressure orifice, but it can also be operated as a high pressure burner, a la SQ-14, using a high pressure orifice and regulator. An adjustable (0-10) psi regulator works very well with these burners.
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