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Old 03-04-2007, 11:52 PM   #1
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Is my One Step a true replacement for the bleach I have been using to sanitize? It says no-rinse cleanser?

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Old 03-05-2007, 12:13 AM   #2
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One Step is a percarbonate cleaner. It is made from sodium carbonate, and a bleaching agent that releases hydrogen peroxide. It isnt a bleach, and is more suited for brewing. For sanitizing, try Iodophor, Star San or Sani Clean. Remember, there are cleaners, and there are sanitizers. All basically are no rinse, where bleach would need to be rinsed off completely.

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So let me get this right. One Step is NOT a sanitizer. I ask this because I have seen it advertised as such. Buyer Beware?

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Some companies try to say it is a sanitizer, but in reality it is only a cleaner. Percarbonates do not act as a germicide and do not kill bacteria. You need Iodophor, Star San and the likes to kill bacteria. This is confusing to so may people because of advertising.

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Do you have to rinse Iodophor, Star san off

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Do you have to rinse Iodophor, Star san off
No - not when mixed in their proper concentrations. It should say on the label how to use it. More is not better, either - just mix what it says, and it should be fine.
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Some companies try to say it is a sanitizer, but in reality it is only a cleaner. Percarbonates do not act as a germicide and do not kill bacteria. You need Iodophor, Star San and the likes to kill bacteria. This is confusing to so may people because of advertising.

Ummm....I hate to be a jerk about this but.......Hydrogen Peroxide certainly does act as an anti-bacteriological agent. It is a sanitizer.


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"Hydrogen peroxide is GRAS (Generally Recognised As Safe) as an antimicrobial agent, an oxidizing agent and more by the US Food and Drug Administration.[8] Hydrogen peroxide can also be used as a toothpaste when mixed with correct quantities of baking soda and salt.[9] Like benzoyl peroxide, hydrogen peroxide is also sometimes used in the treatment of acne."



You are simply wrong about One-Step. It is a sanitizer, as it releases hydrogen peroxide and soda ash and acts as a sanitizer. I'm not sure where the logic of claiming it isn't is coming from.



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I've *heard* that One-Step is not marketed as a sanitizer solely because they would be held to much higher marketing standards if they make that claim.

With that said, I find Iodophor to be cheap and effective, to leave no flavor in the beer, and not only is no-rinse - it really doesn't need to be dried all that well, just get most of it out of the fermenter or off your gear. I remember One-Step being quite a bit more expensive, although I will confess that I may not have been using it at the proper dilution rate (it's been a while since I used it).

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I've *heard* that One-Step is not marketed as a sanitizer solely because they would be held to much higher marketing standards if they make that claim.

With that said, I find Iodophor to be cheap and effective, to leave no flavor in the beer, and not only is no-rinse - it really doesn't need to be dried all that well, just get most of it out of the fermenter or off your gear. I remember One-Step being quite a bit more expensive, although I will confess that I may not have been using it at the proper dilution rate (it's been a while since I used it).

I did a little research and a 16.9oz bottle of Iodophor runs about $7.95 and can make 169 gallons of sanitizer. That's using the recommended 1/10 of an ounce per gallon for a solution of 12.5 ppm.

To make the same amount of solution (169 gallons) with One-Step, (using One-Step's recommended dose) it would take 5.28 or so pounds of One-Step, at a cost of around $20.00. All prices are from Northern Brewer.

So the Iodophor is clearly a superior sanitizer in term of cost. It would seem it is superior in terms of time as well, as One-Step is a 2 minute contact time, and the Iodophor is a one minute contact time. Both are no-rinse.


Good call, the_bird!


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For giggles, you should do the calcs for Star-San as well. Gotta prep for a meeting or I'd do it myself...

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