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Old 07-16-2014, 01:09 PM   #11
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I use some generic OxiFree product from the dollar store at way lower prices than Amazon. And yes, TSP/90 (Sodium metasilicate) is a needed ingredient to make a PBW substitute/clone. 70% OxiFree, 30% TSP/90. Like 7oz + 3oz.

I found the 4# TSP/90 at the local hardware store (ACE) for about the same price as Amazon. Still stupidly expensive for what it is, but in total a bit lower than PBW off the homebrew shelf.

I also save the PBW solutions if they are not too cruddy. The TSP/90 and washing soda (from the Oxi after the Oxygen has dissipated) are still a great cleaner for your equipment, and work better when hot. That TSP is a very powerful cleaner.

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Old 07-16-2014, 01:18 PM   #12
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Even amazon knows... ha...
I've been using this for several years. I buy 4 3-lb Oxiclean Free buckets when they are on sale and 1 4-lb Red Devil TSP/90. Mix them up and you are good for a full year of cleaning carboys and kegs.

I've never had to scrub anything. Just a 24-hour soak followed by a really hot rinse and no crud.

I buy the Oxi locally. I used to buy via Amazon, but the prices have doubled with shipping.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:29 PM   #13
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Old 07-17-2014, 03:37 PM   #14
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Neat. I'll have to price that out. The frequently bought together, it can be very helpful or very dangerous...



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It is extremely cheap even if you use name brand oxiclean, even cheaper if you buy generic oxiclean at Wal-Mart or wherever. I brew often at least 1 or 2 times a month and I am still on my first one pound lb of TSP90 I bought a year ago. I usually mix 1 tbs of oxi/tsp90 per gallon. Much Much Much cheaper than PBW and It works great.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:16 PM   #15
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Use cheapest oxy based cleaner you can find, Big Lots, Dollar Store etc.
That's the way to go.

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Old 07-17-2014, 11:54 PM   #16
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The amazon price for oxiclean free is a ripoff. I bought the same 3 lb tub at walmart for $7, the other day. I bought PBW for the first time, wasn't impressed with the performance, and definitely wasn't impressed with the cost. I'll be comparing oxiclean + tsp/90 vs PBW soon.

Note: PBW works great, but it isn't as amazing as I expected it to be.

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Old 07-19-2014, 07:21 PM   #17
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Great. I'll just need the TSP.


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Old 07-19-2014, 07:25 PM   #18
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Someone on amazon reviews says the TSP/90 is not for glass. Anyone know why they would say that?


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