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Old 05-26-2005, 01:01 PM   #11
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Iodophor mixed to 12.5 ppm is a no-rinse sanitizer. It really means no-rinse. In fact, I don't let anything drip dry. I empty out all the liquid I can and then use immediately. I put freshly cooled wort in a still wet carboy, I rack into a still wet keg, and I siphon with a still wet siphon rig. Someone did some very good research and experimentation on the flavor threshhold of iodophor. Here is the link:
http://www.homebrew.com/articles/article08290301.shtml.

I don't know if rinsing the bottles after sanitizing is the same as spitting in them, but it certainly does seem counter-productive. Even with the chlorine content of most city water supplies, none of your plumbing or faucet internals are sanitized, therefore they could contain beer spoiling bacteria.

My take on this is - don't rinse. Don't even drip dry. You won't taste the difference. Drain well and move on. If you leave something to air dry, there is a higher chance that wild yeast from the air will land on the surface the longer it sits there. No-rinse sanitizers are there for your convenience, take advantage.

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Old 05-26-2005, 03:38 PM   #12
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THAT'S what I was trying to find out...how others do it, wet or dry.

I've been doing it wet ever since I started brewing.

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Anyone else? Wet or dry?

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Old 05-26-2005, 05:33 PM   #13
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The "tilt" thing? I don't understand what you mean.

I use drying trees (I have 2 of them).
if you will pardon my hastely drawn and crude autocad drawing ,this is what i mean - second example alows the beer to flow along the outside edge of the bottle - i don't get foam that way. example one always produced a lot of turbelance and foam

http://www.madawg.net/publicpix/FILLING.jpg

when i did get foam i never attributed it to onsetp sanatizing...hmmmm

i use milk crates to turn the bottles upside down and drain dry.

http://madawg.net/mypix/albums/first...l_100_0148.JPG

my set up probably is more primative than what you have though.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:34 PM   #14
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I don't do beer, but wine is my game. I use my metabisulphite, rinse the bottle's and hang em upside down on the bottle tree.
if some of them are dry by the time I get the wine in, oh well. I certainly do not rinse them, they just "dry" on the bottle tree.

As far as my brewing - I sanitise my fermenters & carboys with the metabisulphite, and do not rinse them either. The concentration of the cleanser is not even close to be able to kill the yeast's etc.. -

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Old 05-27-2005, 10:30 PM   #15
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Someone did some very good research and experimentation on the flavor threshhold of iodophor. Here is the link:
http://www.homebrew.com/articles/article08290301.shtml.
Good stuff there, thanks Dennis.
After reading this article, I will surely be changing my sanitizing methods.
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Old 05-27-2005, 11:33 PM   #16
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Good stuff there, thanks Dennis.
After reading this article, I will surely be changing my sanitizing methods.

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http://www.madawg.net/publicpix/FILLING.jpg

i use milk crates to turn the bottles upside down and drain dry.

http://madawg.net/mypix/albums/first...l_100_0148.JPG

my set up probably is more primative than what you have though.
Your drawings were fine.

Nice heavy duty milk crates too.

Question...did you sanitize the milk crates first? If not you are sitting sanitized bottles on an unsanitary surface. Just a thought.

The crates look a lot like the beer crates used overseas. I have about 10 of them and wish I had more.

I use cheap milk crates for the shorter bottles. I also line the bottoms of my crates with cardboard (from old boxes, etc). When they get wet/warped, etc., I just change them out with new cardboard. I also use them to store and move my carboys with.
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OK, ok... you all have convinced me. this weekend when I racked my brews to secondary and harvested some yeast from one of the yeast cakes, I sanitized the secondary with starsan and let the carboy sit inverted for 5 minutes or so. I racked into the carboy while there was still sanitizer foam clinging to the inside of the carboy. Its a little unnerving. But I kept saying to myself, don't worry... have a... well you get the picture.

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Indeed we do!

(I would not like seeing the foam in my bottle either).

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Question...did you sanitize the milk crates first? If not you are sitting sanitized bottles on an unsanitary surface. Just a thought.
absolutely EVERYTHING gets a sanatizing bath - the spots you see on the crates and the siphon are water droplets frozen in time by the flash but yes they get sanatizing.

and the crates serve double duty as a carboy carrying device and for when i wash out the carboy and turn it on it's top to drain - they serve me well.
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