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Old 05-25-2005, 08:02 PM   #1
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Does everyone allow their equipment to totally air dry or do you use your buckets and bottles while they are still wet with sanitizer?

Reason I am asking is that while bottling I noticed the beer will foam up a bit when the inside of the bottle is still a bit wet. (This will end up as a larger air space under the cap.)

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hmmm never really took not of the foaming when wet action...i usually allow my bottles to air dry - and when filling i tip the bottle to the spigot in a manner as not to get airiation of the liquid...then cap.

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That's kind of my point...if your bottles are still wet you will get foaming while adding your brew.

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I know that no rinse sanitizers like starsan are supposed to be just that... no rinse, but I really don't want any residue of any kind on my bottles, so I usually rinse thouroughly and let them sit on the bottle tree until they are dry.

Other sanitizers, like bleach, well they need to be well rinsed or they will add disgusting flavors to your beer... ask me how I know. Wait, DON'T ask me how I know.

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That's kind of my point...if your bottles are still wet you will get foaming while adding your brew.
even if you do the tilt thing?

just asking because i've never waivered from that method?
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I'm with Andre... I use 'no rinse' (iodophor to be exact) cleansers but I still rinse in scalding hot tap water. After I do rinse, I will turn the bottles upside down on the dishwasher rack but usually they are not completely dry by the time I start bottling. I have a bottling wand which fills the bottles from the bottom so tilting is not an issue. The remaining moisture in my bottles has yet to cause any foaming for me.

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I'm with Andre... I use 'no rinse' (iodophor to be exact) cleansers but I still rinse in scalding hot tap water. After I do rinse, I will turn the bottles upside down on the dishwasher rack but usually they are not completely dry by the time I start bottling. I have a bottling wand which fills the bottles from the bottom so tilting is not an issue. The remaining moisture in my bottles has yet to cause any foaming for me.
Rinsing iodophor basically makes it useless. For full effectivness, iodophor needs to drip dry, or at least needs to be left coating the surface for a bit. If you rinse it right after using it, you might as well not use it.
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I would have to disagree bikebryan... or maybe just clarify the way I use it... I soak my bottles in the Iodophor for 3 to 5 mins... this is enough for the Iodophor to be effective. After that I allow them to drip dry for a bit while I get everything else ready for bottling. Before I bottle I rinse with hot water. The bottles are usually not completely dry by then but they have been soaked and allowed some time to dry. The way I am using it as stated above is backed only from reading books and internet articles so if I am missing something, please do enlighten me

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I would have to disagree bikebryan... or maybe just clarify the way I use it... I soak my bottles in the Iodophor for 3 to 5 mins... this is enough for the Iodophor to be effective. After that I allow them to drip dry for a bit while I get everything else ready for bottling. Before I bottle I rinse with hot water. The bottles are usually not completely dry by then but they have been soaked and allowed some time to dry. The way I am using it as stated above is backed only from reading books and internet articles so if I am missing something, please do enlighten me

Let's clarify further--if your iodophor mixture is 12.5 ppm or less, you do not need to rinse. Any more than that, you do need to rinse.
If you are using a 12.5 ppm mixture and you rinse, you might as well spit in every bottle before you put beer in it. Rinsing defeats the purpose completely.
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Rinsing defeats the purpose completely.
That's kind of like what I was thinking.

The "tilt" thing? I don't understand what you mean.

I use drying trees (I have 2 of them).

My point is that sometimes when I am bottling the bottles are not completely dry and adding beer produces a foaming action. The foam sits on top of the beer (naturally), but this foam takes up space and basically adds more air space above the beer (unless I allow it to sit so I can fill the bottle to the right height.
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