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Old 11-09-2012, 01:28 AM   #211
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I'm sorry if I missed this, but when using one of these do you not do any other filtering in the kettle? I'd guess you would recirculate back into the spider to get the break material too and just have a pick up tube a little off center maybe?

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Old 11-09-2012, 02:19 AM   #212
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I'm sorry if I missed this, but when using one of these do you not do any other filtering in the kettle? I'd guess you would recirculate back into the spider to get the break material too and just have a pick up tube a little off center maybe?
I"m planning on cooling with it all in there, once cool, I will move the filter, whirlpool to settle any particulate that was fine enough to get through, and for the hot and cold break to settle out to empty the kettle.
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:27 AM   #213
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I'm planning on cooling with it all in there, once cool, I will move the filter, whirlpool to settle any particulate that was fine enough to get through, and for the hot and cold break to settle out to empty the kettle.
Ok, thanks.

I was planning on using a CFC. Currently I'm using a hopstopper and CFC, but I lose siphon if I'm not really careful to slow way down during the last couple of gallons with the hopstopper because of it's design.
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:36 AM   #214
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Ok, thanks.

I was planning on using a CFC. Currently I'm using a hopstopper and CFC, but I lose siphon if I'm not really careful to slow way down during the last couple of gallons with the hopstopper because of it's design.
I *think* the hopstopper will still be great for leaf hops and the spider will be better for pellets.

I have a hop stopper too and don't run into problems with leaf. Pellets like to jam it up though and I get the same troubles as you towards the end of the kettle.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:56 PM   #215
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I sent an autocad file - print to Belleville Wire Cloth in Jersey, and they made me a strainer with their wire mesh next day. Dont get me wrong, I paid for it, but it was fast and its been working great, so why not?

http://www.bwire.com/index.html

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Old 11-09-2012, 04:41 PM   #216
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I sent an autocad file - print to Belleville Wire Cloth in Jersey, and they made me a strainer with their wire mesh next day. Dont get me wrong, I paid for it, but it was fast and its been working great, so why not?

http://www.bwire.com/index.html
wow - that sounds cool. can you share a picture or two if you get a chance?
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:57 PM   #217
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Basically a bucket shape - with a bottom and no top. Made of 30 micron wire mesh - with a small handle made of stainless - I will get the pics up asap.

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Old 11-09-2012, 07:45 PM   #218
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Recirculating back into the spider or basket (before chilling) is always a good idea. Not only does it help push the oils through the bag and into the wort, but it clears everything up. Be careful though, because the bag can clog and overflow if you don't watch your rate.

If you use an IC I wouldn't try this after chilling to try and catch the break...not worth the PITA. It all settles out anyway.

I have done the same thing in the mashtun, putting a hop bag over the output, and it catches a lot of husk.

For the price of hops, I think it's really worth considering the "multi-bag" approach.

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Old 11-09-2012, 07:46 PM   #219
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I just placed my order for a 300 mesh 6"x14" for my boil kettle.

I am also having him make me a smaller version, about 2 3/4" diam. x 8" to drop into the opening of my corny kegs. Going to try and filter the hot/cold break as well as I ferment in my kegs now. Hopefully it will not clog since the hop screen will keep most of the hop debris at bay. We'll see.

I will report here with some pics when I get a chance to use it. I am in the middle of converting my keg to electric so as soon as I can use it I will.

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BTW, I've been thinking there may be some value in buying 2 small baskets vs. 1 large. I think there's a point of "critical mass" you reach once you put too many pellets in the basket. The sludge restricts flow....and it blunts the diffusion of later hop additions....especially those 5 and 0 minute additions. Think about it....do you really think that there's any worthwhile diffusion of alpha acids past the screen when you throw new hops into an already very thick hop sludge? Maybe...but certainly not as much as there needs to be.

So maybe it's worthwhile to have a bittering basket and an aroma basket? Or, get rid of the bittering hops, wash it out, around T-10 mins and then add the aroma hops?
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You know.. I had that same thought.. I really did.. Grab two of the 4in baskets, and put on each side. If you don't pack them, then you will have no issues what so ever.

Once you start tossing tons of hops in, then you get issues I think.

I ordered the 14 on since I needed the extra space, and it's 6in opening.

I generally use whole leaf. I've got a ton of it around here of various kinds, but I do use pellets in stuff that I don't have on hand.

I'm thinking for the FWH, I can put the tube from the tun into the strainer with my hops and let it run over them easily as well.

I might end up getting another tube. I will see how much whole leaf I can cram in there.. Might need two of them for the big DIPA's I do. I think I'll be okay for MOST beers doing this. Worse case, I toss the whole whole leaf right in.. I just need to cut down on the crap in the kettle.

I also thought, hey, for the flame out additions, since they are generally the bigger ones, I could just pull the strainer if it's full, or I could use a hop bag I keep around for the last addition. Since it's not boiling any more I have no issues "floating it" in the kettle. I'll have to play around with it. Hopefully this strainer will work for what I want to do. I was pretty irritated with that mess I had in the kettle. I don't want a bazooka tube in the kettle though.
I think these are great idea's. Almost changed my order to two smaller ones. However I'm going to try it the way others have first. Then I would like to use SS's idea and when i get ready to throw on my IC, I can remove the basket, rinse, put my chiller in and then place the basket into the center of the IC.

Another thought for those that have the equipment on hand, throw everything as usual into the BK and when you transfer do it into a bucket with the basket hanging on the side to filter hops, hot and cold break. Then transfer to your primary if the bucket isn't the primary. Doing it this way would be extra work I guess but aerate your wort in the process. Just a thought.
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