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Old 12-14-2007, 12:47 AM   #1
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Default natural gas or propane or something different?

I am just curious what exactly this would be.

The big round cylinder tanks that you see people use outside the city limits.

Do they contain natural gas? or maybe a mixture of butane or something like that?

I was going to take my brew rig to a friends house and he has one of these...My setup is for natural gas, but I was just wondering if it would work with this...gas.

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Old 12-14-2007, 12:53 AM   #2
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It's probably propane. No a natural gas burner will not work with propane, as the orifice sizes are very different. I'm not speaking from experience, but I'm still pretty sure they are not compatible.

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The big round tanks are probably LP (liquid propane) tanks. Your rig is not compatible with those. Propane burners run at a much higher gas pressure than natural gas burners, and the two are not interchangeable.

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Old 12-14-2007, 01:03 AM   #4
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You can get special regulators to reduce the LP (10-20 psi) to NG (3-10 inches) pressures. They connect downstream from the low pressure LP regulator (a big tank will have a high pressure regulator at the tank and a low pressure regulator at the house). You still have to be careful not to over-heat the burner, as LP has more energy per unit volume than NG.

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Now I'M curious. where does one find such an adapter/regulator?

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Here's the deal:

The LP dude just set a new 'pig'. There's a 10 psi at the tank, to tame line pressure that runs underground to the house.

At the house, there is a 13" (~1/2 psi~) regulator for the house appliances...so, if you wanted, you could run a 'T' from the main reg, bury a new line, say going into the garage, and coming out of the ground feed it thru a hole above the foundation, as in thru the siding/wall. Distribute this in the garage as you need, utilise a 1/2 turn ball-valve water heater type valve, and you have a large supply of 10 psi propane.

It is code-legal (at least here) and safe.

Propane companies have regulators, and copper tubing, and on the trucks that do the install, but not the 'filling' trucks.

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I believe Yuri and Shaffer are right. When I got my stove I had to change out the orifice from a NG one to a Propane one for it to work properly. I didn't do anything to the pressure regulator. I've also never seen a second pressure regulator at the house. So while you may be able to get a flame from a NG source on your propane burner by simply reducing the pressure I would wonder what kind of efficiency you'd get. And there is no way I'd put a NG burner on a propane source without the orifice mod. Maybe I'm overly cautious.

But ask your NG company or the folks you bought the burner from maybe you can get a propane orifice and reg.

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