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Old 01-15-2009, 06:45 PM   #11
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You guys crack me up. I'm perfectly happy with my 5 and 10 gallon igloo mash tuns. Money is no object because its not mine. I have a friend that has never brewed a batch before and is talking about starting a brew pub. So I was just looking for the most expensive system to suggest as a "starter system".

I don't really know the difference between HERMS and RIMS because I've never bothered to research it. I'll probably never get something that nice. Its not that those systems aren't worth the money I just don't mind the work and variance between batches. It's kind of like the fact that I have a wood splitter but still split wood by hand sometimes.
It would be better for your "friend" to settle in on the volume of beer he intends to produce. A Brew pub is only half beer if you want a strong, steady, customer base. The other half is food.

Look at it like this;

If said friend intends to have say 4 beers on tap and has a floorplan with 60 seats and you figure 12 oz beer sales volume at a rate of 20% of the seat count per hour you are looking at 96 servings per 8 hour day or 672 a week.

5 gallons = 54 servings times 3 = 162 servings per half bbl. So, said friend would need to maintain at least 2 bbl a week production in this scenario. Meaning, he won't have time to run his restaurant if he is brewing the beer.

Now, those figures are very conservative too. Imagine if your friend had to produce 2 bbl a week of 4 styles of beer.

My point is, he'd be much better off with a higher capacity system than a Brew-Magic. The Brew-Magic would be better served for him to design beers on before he invests the materials into the larger capacity system.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM   #12
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Where does this friend looking to start a brewpub where money is no object live? I'm sure there are plenty of people here that would be happy to 'advise' him every step of the way.

Seriously though, I'd check out probrewer.com and their classified section. Over there, there are people selling a whole set of used brewhouse equipment in one deal. Of course, someone who's never brewed before would probably be lost in a fermentor they can crawl into.

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Old 01-15-2009, 08:10 PM   #13
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Thanks for the probrewer.com idea, I'll pass it on. Again GilaMinumBeer, its not my money so I don't really give a rip. I was really just looking for the most expensive system to suggest as a joke to him.

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Thanks for the probrewer.com idea, I'll pass it on. Again GilaMinumBeer, its not my money so I don't really give a rip. I was really just looking for the most expensive system to suggest as a joke to him.

Okay.

The MOST expensive Pilot system I have seen is;

pilot breweries

10 Gallon, IIRC, for a bargain price of $45,000.00 base price. Money being no object, anything less is for hobos.
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That's perfect. I'll tell him that he can probably talk them down at least 10k because of the recession.

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