 |
01-05-2010, 04:07 PM
|
#1
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Union City, CA
Posts: 2,863
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts Likes Given: 1
|
Last Question about thermocouples, I swear!
|
|
So, will this probe from brewershardware.com:
Work with this love controller?:

Thanks and sorry for the many temp probe q's!
|
|
|
01-05-2010, 04:17 PM
|
#2
|
|
In yo' garage, steelin' yo parts.
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oblivion
Posts: 43,970
Liked 3815 Times on 3659 Posts Likes Given: 47
|
The drop down specifies TS series controllers and the 16A is not a TS series so, I wager a guess that it won't. Maybe call Dwyer and check.
|
|
|
01-06-2010, 10:22 AM
|
#3
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: kent, wa.
Posts: 315
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
|
nope, it won't work. the probe you want to use is a thermistor, but the love controller you want to use has thermocouple or rtd sensor input only (it also has process voltage/current input but that's irrelevant for this application..)
thermistors and rtd's are both variable resistors that respond to heat, but the response and resistance curves are completely different. generally speaking, a thermistor is more precise but an rtd has a wider operating range.
|
|
|
01-06-2010, 04:12 PM
|
#4
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Union City, CA
Posts: 2,863
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts Likes Given: 1
|
Great, so basically I need a thermocouple and a thermowell to monitor my fermentation temps... so what would the best combo be? Thanks...
EDIT: Ok, so will this Type-k Thermocouple work?

Last edited by Brewing Clamper; 01-06-2010 at 04:50 PM.
|
|
|
01-07-2010, 09:03 AM
|
#5
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: kent, wa.
Posts: 315
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewing Clamper
Great, so basically I need a thermocouple and a thermowell to monitor my fermentation temps... so what would the best combo be? Thanks...
EDIT: Ok, so will this Type-k Thermocouple work?

|
electrically, that thermocouple will work, but if you're planning to submerge it in liquid, that would be a bad idea... it's not waterproof, and is designed to screw into the material being heated (for example, a hot stamping machine's solid aluminum platen heated with electrical cartridge heaters)
you could screw it into a block of aluminum and put that in your fermentation chamber, the readings should be pretty accurate once the temperature stabilizes.
a k thermocouple is probably the best choice as far as accuracy and cost go. a j thermocouple will also work as long as you're not going below freezing temps.. with all thermocouples, if you need to extend the leads you must use compatible thermocouple wire, ordinary copper wire will introduce error into the system....
Last edited by marzsit; 01-07-2010 at 09:09 AM.
|
|
|
01-07-2010, 12:17 PM
|
#6
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,597
Liked 31 Times on 25 Posts Likes Given: 9
|
Are you set on either of the two products you mentioned?
This controller uses the thermistor you listed. (But, it includes a thermistor probe.)
|
|
|
01-12-2010, 03:07 PM
|
#7
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Union City, CA
Posts: 2,863
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts Likes Given: 1
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by marzsit
electrically, that thermocouple will work, but if you're planning to submerge it in liquid, that would be a bad idea... it's not waterproof, and is designed to screw into the material being heated (for example, a hot stamping machine's solid aluminum platen heated with electrical cartridge heaters)...
|
If I use this K type I would not submerge it, I would use it with a thermowell that would go into the fermenter.
Beerific: I do already own the Series 16A controller so I'm not looking to buy a different one, just a probe that will work with mine for my application. Thanks guys...
|
|
|
01-20-2010, 04:23 PM
|
#8
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: East Dundee, Illinois
Posts: 5,031
Liked 22 Times on 20 Posts Likes Given: 4
|
I'm thinking of switching over to using an RTD sensor instead of thermocouples. At the temperature range in which we use them they have a 2.7* F accuracy. So I could be fermenting at 70 when I wanted upper 60's etc. Maybe not a huge deal, but in my MLT I want to be within 1 degree of my mash temp.
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/776AB03E065228408625727B00034E20
__________________
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
Primary: Nothin
Secondary: Shady Lord RIS, Water to Barleywine, Pumpkin wine, burnt mead
Kegged: Crappy infected mild
Bottles: Apfelwein, 999 Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Robust Porter, Robust smoked porter, Simcoe Smash
|
|
|
01-21-2010, 02:27 AM
|
#9
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 990
Liked 16 Times on 14 Posts Likes Given: 20
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
|
|
|