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Old 11-30-2010, 10:29 PM   #11
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thanks, Wayne I've been reading up quite a bit and have yet to brew my first batch, just trying to figure this all out and get the right equipment for my first brew. I am more of a hands on type of learner and reading alone doesn't really stick unless I do it myself or see it done.

just see a lot of 3 keggle or 3 pot systems using pumps etc. not really understanding the flow pattern.


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Old 11-30-2010, 10:49 PM   #12
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I made my own that is full 1/2" ID (copper) with an angle pick-up tube along the bottom and sidewall. Works nicely since I pump out at the bottom, out through CFC and then back into the kettle. if I stir it up at the start of the pump to really get the whirlpool moving and then kick the pump into action, I will drop that bad-boy down to about 75 degrees, let it settle, then pump again through the CFC and into the fermenter (will be about 60-65 into the fermenter).

Works nicely.

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Old 11-30-2010, 10:53 PM   #13
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im just trying to figure out how 3 keggles come into play when brewing. I currently have 2 keggles in the making. I have a Igloo cube cooler I can turn into a mash container for AG brews.
As Wayne said, lotsa options especially when you start trying to model after a larger scale brewery. I have 2 kettles (HLT and BK) and a cooler MLT. Some get away with a single kettle they use for HLT and then reuse for BK with the strategic use of buckets or other temporary wort collection devices.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:37 PM   #14
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Wayne1, Im interested to know if that pic of your sediment cone was from a 5 or ten gallon batch and how much wort is left behind with that setup? Also how is it for cleaning afterwards and what is your procedure?

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:42 PM   #15
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I really like your way of whirlpooling in your keggle kettle can you whirlpool and then run the wort through a small plate chiller with out clogs

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Old 02-04-2011, 01:19 AM   #16
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GC89,

Sorry, I hadn't seen your question earlier. That batch was a 10 gallon Blonde Ale. It only used 4 oz of hops. My last batch, a porter, used 5 oz and left a similar sized cone.

When I make Pale Ales or IPAs, I do use up to a pound of hops. There is quite a bit more trub left behind. I tend to compensate for that by starting out with a greater volume in the kettle and leave more behind.

My outlet is at a level where roughly .375 gallons are left behind. Cleaning is easy. I dump the residue out, hose the kettle down and scrub it well with PBW first and then Acid 5 from Five Star. Rinse and put back on the brewframe.

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If your question is directed to me, I do not use a plate chiller. I feel a counter flow chiller works best at a homebrew level. They are easier to clean and maintain. There is never a problem with clogs.

When I was brewing professionally, I did clog the plate heat exchanger once in awhile. It is a major PITA to pull one apart, remove all the residue and assemble it so it doesn't leak. I even wrote an article for New Brewer magazine once on just that subject. Maybe that is why I like my CFC so much.

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Wayne,

When your doing the whirlpool do you just run everything through your pump/ cfc & back into the kettle? I set up my kettle almost exactly the same as yours, just dont want the pump or cfc to clog with hops as I startup the whirlpooling for the first time. It doesnt appear you have any kind of filter or hop-stopper in the BK.


edit: my bad...read the date as 2012, sorry for the post on a year old thread.

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No problem with resurrecting an old thread, as far as I am concerned.

Currently, I use a hop spider with 5 gallon paint strainer bags. I have been doing a fair amount of pale ales and IPAs with lots of late additions. The trub levels were very high and would cut down on the amount of liquid that I was able to remove.

Using the hop spider did require recalculating my volumes a bit. I never had a problem with clogging the pump or the CFC. I just wanted more trub free wort into my fermenters.

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Ok, I use a majority of pellets hops. I really want to try whirlpool hopping just didnt want to clog up everything on my first run. I was thinking of just bagging the 60-30min additions and removing them when I start the whirlpool. That should remove at least some of the potential debris.

When you whirlpool, is the pump hooked up only to/from the BK or does it also run through your CFC while recirculating? With a 25' CFC, I am worried I might not get enough velocity from the 1/2" Bargain Fittings whirlpool fitting.
I just want to use the whirlpool recirculation to sanitize the CFC piping. Once the whirlpool has settled for 10-20min I plan to cut on the chilling water & go directly to my fermenter.

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I have no trouble with whirlpooling through my CFC. I have taken a fair amount of care to minimize resistance with my hose barbs, hoses and quick disconnects.

You might want to try it out with just water to make sure you are getting the velocity you want.

I whirlpool hop with the hop spider. I only use pellets.

I would not count on the wort to sanitize the chiller. Most pumps don't care to move boiling wort. Recirculate StarSan through all your hoses and CFC before the end of the boil and let it sit in the lines for a bit.

Run the chilling water through the CFC while you are whirlpooling. This will also help to reduce the amount of cold break transferred to your fermenter.

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