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Old 04-15-2010, 01:23 AM   #11
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i built a brutus 10 using kegs. i enjoyed building the system, from polishing the kegs to welding the stand and kegs, so if you think you will enjoy building it, go that route. some of the differences i know of, without assumption, is that kegs are not identical, as some have dings, and different shapes, etc. blichmann's kettles are precisely accurate and similiar in shape and size. DIY hole punching in kegs is hard to get accurate.

kegs can be cheaper than Blichmann's---but not by much when you put all costs of welded/weldless sightglasses, temp gauges, drain valves, etc. browse the classifieds for some used blichmann kettles and you may come across a good deal.

my only assumption here is that Blichmann kettles probably hot a more even heat distribution more-so than kegs.

as far as equipment, search the vendors here on HBT. Jaybird makes excellent false bottoms (go with the hinged version if you are using kegs).

For my brutus build, I obtained 90% of my equipment through MoreBeer.com, brewershardware.com, northernbrewer.com, and austinhomebrew.com.

morebeer has been excellent to me. i rarely order online with them. i usually call in and speak with them over the phone. good luck and pm me if you have specific questions or are having hard times finding certain parts. i'll be more than happy to help you as i just brewed my first batch last weekend on my new system and am brewing again this weekend,

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Gotta agree with Bucks here all the way...

Yea, I LOVE my kettles... They were the staple from Morebeer, and NB at the time. I bought mine from NB (3ea), and before that, I had bought three from Morebeer... These were VERY nice for the price. They are VERY hard to none to find now... Don't know the full story, but you could get them from Morebeer, Northern Brewer, or even the dreaded St Pat's (bought one from them too!)... It was the exact same tank made by EuroTank. I would like to know the story because I want more!

In any case, there are some great systems using Keggles. I have thought about that myself but I love my pots...

The Blich's look great to me. I have touched one of them at the local HBS a time or two. I even asked Blich if he would GIVE () me three to try out for him... Still waiting on the email!

Personally, it all makes great beer man... Go the way your heart takes you...
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:26 AM   #12
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i built a brutus 10 using kegs. i enjoyed building the system, from polishing the kegs to welding the stand and kegs, so if you think you will enjoy building it, go that route. some of the differences i know of, without assumption, is that kegs are not identical, as some have dings, and different shapes, etc. blichmann's kettles are precisely accurate and similiar in shape and size. DIY hole punching in kegs is hard to get accurate.

kegs can be cheaper than Blichmann's---but not by much when you put all costs of welded/weldless sightglasses, temp gauges, drain valves, etc. browse the classifieds for some used blichmann kettles and you may come across a good deal.

my only assumption here is that Blichmann kettles probably hot a more even heat distribution more-so than kegs.

as far as equipment, search the vendors here on HBT. Jaybird makes excellent false bottoms (go with the hinged version if you are using kegs).

For my brutus build, I obtained 90% of my equipment through MoreBeer.com, brewershardware.com, northernbrewer.com, and austinhomebrew.com.

morebeer has been excellent to me. i rarely order online with them. i usually call in and speak with them over the phone. good luck and pm me if you have specific questions or are having hard times finding certain parts. i'll be more than happy to help you as i just brewed my first batch last weekend on my new system and am brewing again this weekend,

cheers mate

The same on Morebeer for me. Chris Graham is one of the owners and he has helped out a lot over the years.
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:31 AM   #13
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are you guys refering to these:

http://morebeer.com/view_product/842...uart_15_Gallon

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Old 04-15-2010, 01:41 AM   #14
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No, that is more like a megapot...

It's more like these, and still by the same manufacture, but these are 26 gals and still available from NorthernBrewer...

http://www.northernbrewer.com/winema...tank-100l.html

Actually, I have thought about these a LOT... Much bigger, yet the same diameter as mine on Brutus. Only thing is I would have to up my BTU's to do 15 gallons... It just may happen yet!
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:43 AM   #15
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Wow, very cheap compared to other pots!

btw, are you still using jet burners...and if so, do you recommend them over banjo burners?

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I'm a fan of that pot. I wold talk to Chris and get a diverted plate welded in front of the pickup on the boil kettle.

I forgot to mention - my current system -kegs - I also have hinged false bottoms made by Jaybird. They work great.
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:48 AM   #17
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I'm assuming your talking to Lonnie, but I have these hard plumbed in all three burners.
http://morebeer.com/view_product/172...er_-_55000_btu

I'm not auto with a pilot light like Lonnie. There are a bunch of issues that guys reported with those jet burners so I just went with the standard burners. I actually pulled them off some cheap turkey fryers that I picked up off Craigslist.

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Wow, very cheap compared to other pots!

btw, are you still using jet burners...and if so, do you recommend them over banjo burners?

thanks
Indeed I do my friend... It works great for me, but the exact parts that I used are very hard to find at this time... There are so many great iterations of Brutus out there it is impossible for me to say though. Of course this has been the idea all along! Do what you want to do!
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sounds awesome...cant wait to get started!

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Blichmans are mainly about bling, I admit.

The cost isnt outrageous though...

When you get a Blichman you are getting a SS kettle

designed with a dimensional aspect ratio made for brewing, not a chili pot

with a stepped bottom to all but eliminate deadspace

with snap in-out dip tubes that are fully adjustable

with expensive, large face, multi-position thermometers

with 3 piece ball valves

with lids

with BEEFY, well guarded and calibrated sight gauges

with tools and brushes to perform maintenance on the kettle itself

They may cost $400, but if you added all of that to many SS pots, youd be in the same ball park. It is just a kettle that sort of comes with the best of everything already installed.

Also, the button falsie is an engineering gem... it offers the even lautering of a falsie (efficiency), but with the clogging resistance of a slotted manifold, genius.

The kettles are light, VERY LIGHT, compared to a keggle... for someone that moves kettles around, it is very nice.

That all said... yah they are $400 each, but you are getting A LOT of stuff when you buy a Blichman, if you have no desire for that stuff, it makes no sense to buy one.

A 15 gallon Blichman is $370 with free shipping (they are drop shipped)

That pot listed above at MoreBeer is $240 with free shipping (then add the 3 piece ball valve for an additional $15, Blichman thermometer $73, and the Blichman sight gauge which has to cost at least $50 if you could buy one)

Now that pot costs you $378 from MoreBeer and you still have to build and install a pickup tube, it doesnt come assembled or drilled and it doesnt come with the tools to do so like the Blichman does.

Blichmans are expensive, but you are getting exactly what you are paying for.

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