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Old 04-14-2011, 10:46 PM   #1
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The snow is melting and we have had some flooding in my area. A few days ago I noticed an empty keg caught in an eddy just below an old dam/waterfall. My friend and I tried to fish it out to no avail. I came back the next morning and saw it floating down a swollen river. Didn't have the guts to go swimming for it. I came back that afternoon after the river had gone down and I found it deep in a muddy backwater. Had to wade through chest deep muck and freezing cold water to get to it.

The keg is from a local microbrew - one that is doing well, but isn't super large. I'm pretty sure I know what bar the keg came from (the only one right next to the river). The keg itself is very slightly dented top & bottom and is somewhat scratched. Still, it is in reasonably good shape.

I'd like to convert it rather than return it.

What are the ethical considerations? Should I keep it or give it up?



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Old 04-14-2011, 10:53 PM   #2
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I think on a strict, black-and-white ethics scale, you know who the keg belongs to, you know it isn't you, so return it.

Now, in the reality of grey where most of us chose to live, the keg had clearly been discarded/forgotten about in the snow. Even if it hadn't been, the rightful owner definitely wouldn't have been as adventurous as you and waded in frozen muck to retrieve it - even if it hadn't been discarded. I say keep it.

This differs from a standard "rented the keg and wanted it so I kept it" scenario in that you didn't seek it out. In fact, you rescued the poor lonely keg from a fate worse than rust!



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Old 04-14-2011, 11:02 PM   #3
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Do you really want to ask this question?

Ethics would dictate that you'd have to at least make an attempt to contact the rightful owner and let them decide it's fate.

Legally, it's found property (as well as any laws your state has about keg ownership). Typically (again I don't know the laws of your State) found property with a value over about $100 is supposed to be turned in to the police department, who will hold it for 90 days and then possibly release it to you.

The brewery probably pays $150-$200 for each keg depending on where it comes from, stamped logos, etc. Are they going to go broke because you kept their keg? Probably not. Will they be happy to get it back? Assuredly. They might even reward you with some brew.

The ethical choice would be to call the brewery and tell them about your find. Tell them that its damaged, and ask if you can keep it. Or, just take it back to the bar where you think it came from.

The practical choice for you might not be the ethical one...

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1) Return the Magic Hat keg to the brewery. (I'm pretty sure that's them). Tell 'em you found it floating about.

2) Tell them that you are an honest man and can't willingly/ethically keep it.

3) Tell them that you are a homebrewer and that you really could use a keg to make a keggle out of it.

4) Collect (hopefully) a banged up keg for FREE from them, which you can then convert to a keggle.

5) Make friends with the brewer, and get the grand tour, and may be even a job.

Karma goes a LONG way.

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Misplaced_Canuck,
Nope, not MH - We don't consider them a micro brew 'round here.

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Then, Shed.

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Wrong again! LOL

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1) Return the Magic Hat keg to the brewery. (I'm pretty sure that's them). Tell 'em you found it floating about.

2) Tell them that you are an honest man and can't willingly/ethically keep it.

3) Tell them that you are a homebrewer and that you really could use a keg to make a keggle out of it.

4) Collect (hopefully) a banged up keg for FREE from them, which you can then convert to a keggle.

5) Make friends with the brewer, and get the grand tour, and may be even a job.

Karma goes a LONG way.

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This. If you return it, maybe they will be grateful enough to either let you keep it or give you a different one, and you will be happy with yourself for taking the high road.
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I would feel wrong keeping a microbrewers keg. However, if it's AB or MC, I couldn't care less. Mine are all AB.

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Uhmn well then Otter Creek (too big), Switchback (whoever makes it), Trout River or Long Trail (too big too).


Dang'it, I'm sittin' here at 30,000ft+... gimme a break. No good beer on USAir!

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