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Old 01-06-2012, 11:04 PM   #1
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Default Kab4 Banjo Burner vs SQ-14

Over new years I decided to buy a new burner. I narrowed it down to the Kab4 and ordered it. Then I changed my mind, cancelled the order, and went with the SQ-14. Today the UPS man shows up with.. both burners. After way too long on hold I was told that they couldn't cancel the order before it was shipped blah blah blah. So now I have both of these awesome burners sitting in my living room and I just can't decide now!!

My main reasons for not wanting to keep the KAB4 is that it seems I have to do a few mods to it to get the full potential out if it. It has issues with the regulator freezing, and it probably will use too much gas. Are all of those things true?

But the Tim Allen in me really wants to fire it up!

Which one should I keep???

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:20 PM   #2
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Ok a few more specific questions:

Will a 10psi hose stop the banjo burner from making the tank freeze?

What kind of efficiency can I expect from one tank with the banjo burner?

Will a larger 40lb tank or more solve the freezing problem?

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:27 PM   #3
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I run a pair of BG14 burners on separate 20 lb tanks, and I've never had a tank freezing problem. Then again, I don't run them wide open...

Cheers!

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What size batches/kettle are you using? I have the SQ-14 and it has more than enough power to boil 5 gal quickly. At hot break you really have to watch it and turn it way down. The decision making behind that as opposed to the banjo was just more efficient use of fuel rather than "throw as much heat as you can at the kettle" method

Both are pretty great tho. 'Gratz!

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Old 01-08-2012, 03:41 AM   #5
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I run a pair of BG14 burners on separate 20 lb tanks, and I've never had a tank freezing problem. Then again, I don't run them wide open...

Cheers!
Are you using the 30psi regulator? How many batches do you get per tank? And do you use the tanks for sparge, etc., or just boils?

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What size batches/kettle are you using? I have the SQ-14 and it has more than enough power to boil 5 gal quickly. At hot break you really have to watch it and turn it way down. The decision making behind that as opposed to the banjo was just more efficient use of fuel rather than "throw as much heat as you can at the kettle" method

Both are pretty great tho. 'Gratz!
I am upgrading my burner and pot, and just bought a 15gal pot. I only do 5 gal batches so far, but wanted the ability to grow. I also like to do really big beers and start w/8-9 gal sometimes.
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I use the adjustable 0-10 psi regulators that came with the burners. One fires the HLT the other the BK. I usually squeeze 6 sessions out of the two tanks, maybe one less session during the winter...

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I use the adjustable 0-10 psi regulators that came with the burners. One fires the HLT the other the BK. I usually squeeze 6 sessions out of the two tanks, maybe one less session during the winter...

Cheers!
Interesting. I searched for a while to find that burner w/a 10psi hose and the only one I found is the Blichmann Burner. So I think you are confirming the online speculation that the 30psi reg. is simply too powerful for this burner. Unfortunately mine has the 30psi reg and will likely be returned. Thanks for the info!
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Old 01-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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i just read on the bayou classic wegsite that the bg14 should have the 30 regulator and if it does you can get 210,000 btus out of it.

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Old 01-11-2012, 09:49 PM   #9
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Ok well after wayyyy too much deliberation, I decided to keep the banjo burner. Just did a test fire today and discovered that it needs a wind cover in a bad bad way. Even 2 feet inside my garage w/very minimal wind it would get blown out like nothing. Ugh, thats annoying. So off to the store to buy some sheet metal I go! Otherwise I think this is going going to be an excellent buy!

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Old 01-18-2012, 03:39 AM   #10
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The wind block worked perfectly and I did a brew w/this burner the other day. I had a little trouble getting a good fire for the initial boil, but after it was rolling I couldn't believe how much I could turn it down and maintain a very violent boil. And it was 19 degrees out at the time! I kept a good watch on the tank and pot and never had the regulator freeze up on me. All in all I'm very pleased with the decision.

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