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Old 01-26-2013, 07:27 PM   #41
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I am in the market to and anpm seriously looking at the MM2.

The best price i have found is here,

http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.co...?idCategory=76

It come with a base and the hopper.

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Old 01-26-2013, 07:43 PM   #42
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I'm curious as to where you will be storing this mill.

Also, not to hijack the thread, but what is the advantage of having both sides adjustable vs only one? Seems like there wouldn't be a difference, but I bet I'm missing something.

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Old 01-26-2013, 07:47 PM   #43
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Hello eric19312, I think most of us have purchased a mill more for.

1 the convince of being able to get in on bulk purchase pricing.
2 the connivence of having grain on hand to be able to brew whatever type of brew we want on a whim.
3 having the ability to set our crush to our needs=better control/better consistency of our brews, instead of getting whatever the crush happens to be on the LHBS or retailers mill.
4 some of us just like doing every aspect of the brew process that we can.

5 My personal belief on the aroma/freshness of grain crushed right before you brew is its going to make better beer with more flavor and aroma, I look at it like this if you take two oranges, cut one in half and place both in the fridge, let sit for 3 days, then pull them out, which one would you rather eat, one is going to be better than the other.

I think grain is the same as the oranges, but on a much slower reacting scale.

Just my 2 cents and thoughts.

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Agree with all these reasons. I bought my mill because my LBHS was new and didn't have one yet. I picked it because ii liked the features offered for the price, and couldnt yet imagine needing something a lot more " heavy duty". I showed my Barley Crusher to my LHBS he has one in the store now.

I am very happy with it and really can't compare it to anything except not owning your own mill. Compared to no mill mine is awesome! I'm sure the others also good, but I've not used those.

I was really reacting to an earlier post that suggested buying bulk grain crushed or buying uncrushed and using a friends mill. I really don't like the idea of storing pre-crushed grain. I Believe your orange analogy is applicable, and matches exactly what I was saying, but I don't have any evidence that grain actually behaves that way.

You can buy a 50 lb sack from one of the online vendors and get them to crush it. But seems like a bad idea to me unless you are brewing on a large scale and can use it all right away.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:21 AM   #44
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Not sure you can compare apples and oranges,ehh I mean grain and oranges.....

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:55 PM   #45
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I'm curious as to where you will be storing this mill.

Also, not to hijack the thread, but what is the advantage of having both sides adjustable vs only one? Seems like there wouldn't be a difference, but I bet I'm missing something.
With both sides adjustable the gap you set can be the same from one end to the other so the crush is consistent. If only one side is adjustable the gap goes from the setting on the "fixed" side to the adjustable side.
Say the fixed side is .039 and the adjustable is set to .035 a portion of the grain will be crushed along the whole which slight as it is will be different. I really doubt that it is enough to notice in the big picture. I bought mine used off of here and have run abut 20-25 bags of grain through it, JSP's are made for the commercial brewing so are built to last. Once I worked my crush to where I needed it I have been holding 80%-85% on all my beers, I can get to the 90's but it starts getting cloudy then so not worth it in the long run for me.
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Agree with all these reasons. I bought my mill because my LBHS was new and didn't have one yet. I picked it because ii liked the features offered for the price, and couldnt yet imagine needing something a lot more " heavy duty". I showed my Barley Crusher to my LHBS he has one in the store now.

I am very happy with it and really can't compare it to anything except not owning your own mill. Compared to no mill mine is awesome! I'm sure the others also good, but I've not used those.

I was really reacting to an earlier post that suggested buying bulk grain crushed or buying uncrushed and using a friends mill. I really don't like the idea of storing pre-crushed grain. I Believe your orange analogy is applicable, and matches exactly what I was saying, but I don't have any evidence that grain actually behaves that way.

You can buy a 50 lb sack from one of the online vendors and get them to crush it. But seems like a bad idea to me unless you are brewing on a large scale and can use it all right away.
I agree with you, and like you said, I have no proof ether, but then again, I do know that food spoils with time, even grain.
I also have not had any other mill for comparison, but I did just purchase
260 lbs of grain, 3 sacks bulk and 110 lbs of specially grains in 8 to 10 lb bags just so I can make up a grain bill on a whim, crush and brew it, I love having a mill.

I know you were reacting to another post, I was just trying to add to your reply, I didn't mean to step on your toes or offend in any way.

Cheers to you my friend

OK its time to get brewing, brewing a beer for my wife today Lu Lu's coffee.
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Not sure you can compare apples and oranges,ehh I mean grain and oranges.....
Yes you can, you just need to have a warped thought process. lol

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Old 01-27-2013, 04:34 PM   #48
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I know you were reacting to another post, I was just trying to add to your reply, I didn't mean to step on your toes or offend in any way.
None taken!

Brewing pale ale double batch now all is good!

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Here's the thing....With a mill I don't store any crushed grain. I want that wonderful fresh crush smell you get right after crushing to get into my beer. I think that smell means there are volatile compounds that you are losing by storing crushed grain. I've Al's heard shelf life of crushed grain is lower than in crushed. But maybe this is just all propaganda from people selling mills...

I don't have evidence that fresh crush makes better tasting beer but not sure that is an experiment that I'm interested in doing now that I have a mill... But I guess the experiment wold be to buy grain for 2 batches, crush half, store crushed and uncrushed side by side for maybe a month. Then on brew day crush the in crushed and brew two identical batches back to back. Ferment, package and triangle test....
Missed my point here. I mean that I think I could buy a 50# sack, take it home to store it, then take back a few lbs here and there to have them mill it right before brew day. Maybe. That would prevent storage of crushed grains.
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I am in the market to and anpm seriously looking at the MM2.

The best price i have found is here,

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It come with a base and the hopper.
It's $2 less with base and hopper through the manufacturer. You sure that's the right link?
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