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**Markd27** · 11-20-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnesie

I don't believe they're saying what you think they're saying - thus I don't believe they're close to "lying". They're saying they "developed and tuned" a burner rather then selecting one. I believe they're viewing the whole apparatus as "the burner" and they've taken a common commodity part and placed it in a well engineered stand that performs better then their competition.

I believe that's the development and tuning aspect, but I don't believe at all that they have enough business to order "custom tuned" cast burners that are virtually identical to a much cheaper and much more commonly available commodity.

EDIT: Or what crazyirishman34 said above ^^^^^^

Makes sense, I can roll with this

worxman02 · 11-20-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GTaylor

How would this mount to the SQ14 frame, is it a direct bolt on? The smaller burner has a bottom mount bolt and the 10" one looks like it attaches on the sides. If it is a simple bolt on, then I may have to upgrade.

Thanks
Greg

No its not a direct bolt-on. You would have to make some supports to hold the burner on and you would also have to upgrade your regulator to the 30psi version. After looking at the cost of everything on amazon, it ends up costing the same as buying the KAB4 burner and stand. It depends on your need and storage space. If you have the space to store 2 full burners and stands than buy the pre-assembled KAB4/6. I don't have the room to store 2 burners and I don't really need them as I do BIAB so I can get away with 1 burner. It's much easier to store the old burner somewhere in a corner than it is to find a place for another large stand.

I think it would be worth building a heatshield around his current burner and see if that helps with his boil times.

**GTaylor** · 11-20-2012, 05:53 PM

Thanks for the reply, I was just curious if t was an easy change. I also do BIAB so no need for a second burner, but I did make a wind guard and it helped a lot with the heating.

worxman02 · 11-21-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GTaylor

Thanks for the reply, I was just curious if t was an easy change. I also do BIAB so no need for a second burner, but I did make a wind guard and it helped a lot with the heating.

How long does it take you now with the wind guard to bring a full batch up to boil?

I don't think that it would be too hard to mount the larger burner in a SQ14 frame, it will just end up costing about $80.

**BBL_Brewer** · 11-21-2012, 04:07 PM

If an extra two and a half hours is going to make or break your marriage, you might as well just give up brewing. All the burners in the world aren't going to keep your wife from nagging. She obviously sees this as a complete waste of time making stupid beer and that is the root of the problem, not your burner.

jackson09 · 11-21-2012, 06:01 PM

StMarcos · 11-22-2012, 07:29 AM

Sounds like some of you would be stoked if Blichmann started designing wives....

**Golddiggie** · 11-22-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StMarcos

Sounds like some of you would be stoked if Blichmann started designing wives....

You mean they don't??

**GTaylor** · 11-22-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by worxman02

How long does it take you now with the wind guard to bring a full batch up to boil?

I don't think that it would be too hard to mount the larger burner in a SQ14 frame, it will just end up costing about $80.

I haven't actually timed it, but from mash temps I would think about 15-20 minutes. Takes about 30 minutes or so to get to strike temps from 70 degree water.

fifthcircle · 01-22-2013, 10:22 PM

Found this thread searching for what burner I should upgrade to....

My birthday present is to order what I want for my birthday.

I am also trying to get the most out of the almighty dollar...as usual...and I sorta hate my turkey fryer burners.

So, from what I gather:
Blichmann burner is really well built, and efficient. $150
Bayou Classic KAB4/6 is nice, but not as efficient. $90/$100 respectively.
All the other, smaller burners are not ideal. $30-50 for most turkey fryer burners.

The idea I have, is to buy burners that I can set on the floor for now. Then down the road, have my buddy build me a brew stand similar to the Ruby Street rig that I can then put the burners into. This is why I am leaning toward the cheaper KAB4. I will "engineer" my stand to direct the heat to the kettle. For now, I am brewing in the garage, and totally out of the wind, so the Blichmann may or may not do a whole lot for me.... (and no, I don't desire the Top Tier stand, and I know the Blichmann will bolt up to it).

Correct me if I am wrong?

-Kurt