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Old 11-22-2006, 06:35 AM   #1
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Hi ya'll, I'm SwAMi. Some of you may remember me from such classics as "OMFG Help!! My beer is stuck!" and "Do I really need to secondary? LOL!!!!1".



So, time is rolling along and I'm still on brewing hiatus. As some of you may recall, I recently moved and I have a nice workshop to install a brewery in. Well, as luck would have it, I have inherited a decent variety of woodworking tools, like a table saw, radial arm, lathe, etc. So, I'm contemplating a DIY wooden stand. It is possible to build a wooden stand with burners built in.

Now, I have blueprints for a metal stand, but no metalworking tools. So I'd have to pay to have this done, and it may be expensive. I'm am at a total gridlock as to what I want to build. Every time I make up my mind, I wind up deciding against it and totally scrapping my plans. I need a swift kick in the ass.

I'm looking for a good indoor AG setup. Right now I have coolers for my HLT and MLT, and a converted keg for my boil kettle. I do have a pump, but I've never used one. I'd really like to do a single-tier, but a low double tier would work.

I want to utilize the entire HBT braintrust ( ) for a big brainstorming session. There are no bad ideas.....if you can dream it up, let's hear it. I am seriously stuck and need to get the brewery back into motion. My goal is to be back operational by March 21st.

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Old 11-22-2006, 06:38 AM   #2
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For the cost of an abrasive blade chop saw (not terribly expensive) and some angle iron, you could bolt your stand together.

I'd go with a 2 tier system - they don't have to be very tall to work effectively so long as your pump works well.

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Old 11-22-2006, 12:00 PM   #3
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I'm with Yuri. Wood for this application scares the hell out of me, magnified by the fact that it's indoors.

Besides - METAL!

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Old 11-22-2006, 01:03 PM   #4
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Here's a link to a two-tier system with wood.
This is a link to several different system styles.
But unless you're working with electricity or plan to use your stove top, your design should be portable so that it can be taken outside.

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Old 11-23-2006, 01:42 PM   #5
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Here's how I see it.

You have woodworking tools, so if you build it with wood, you don't have to buy any new tools.

You do NOT have metalworking tools, so if you build it out of metal, you get to buy new metalworking tools.

Sounds like an argument in favor of metal to me!

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Old 11-23-2006, 02:36 PM   #6
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If you spill enough water/wort on the wooden one, it should be flame-proof!

I think Yuri has the best suggestion so far. For the cost of a chop blade of even a cheap angle-grinder and a cut-off wheel, you can built it out of metal. You can use perforated angle iron like Brewpastor has and you wouldn't even need to worry about drilling holes.

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The person with the most power tools upon death is the winner. You can not have enough. I am building an extension to my house just now and I have many many many good things! Angle grinders are fun though - just watch out for the sparks going up your nose. don't ask

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* swift kick to ass *
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Being an engineer, I would ask myself, "How can I build this in the most cost efficient manner, meet or exceed specifications and maintain safety?" All of these parameters must be met in the final product. If you choose to build out of wood, your cost will probably be relatively low, most specs could probably be met; however safety will always remain questionable. Naturally, fire and wood are a bad combination; but wood and water are also a bad combination. Wet wood will begin to deteriorate and strength will be compromised. Also wood continually expands and contracts with atmospheric changes, also contributing to structural weakening. The last thing you want is 170 degree plus water spilling all over you or anyone else in the vicinity. If you look at any commercially available brew sculpture, it is made from metal. This isn't done so that they just have an excuse to charge you more. It's done this way because it's simply the RIGHT way to do it. In regards to cost, it will cost more than using wood; but it can still be built rather inexpensively. You can certainly meet and/or exceed specs and it is hands down much safer than wood. The bottom line is. "If your going to do it, do it RIGHT."

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I used industrial shelving that I purchased at Home Depot for my structure. No welding or cutting tools needed. Also, you can change the height of various sections until you're happy. Just replace the particle board shelves with pieces of expanded steel.

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