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Old 10-27-2011, 04:07 AM   #1
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hey guys, i'm new to home brewing and stopped by my local home brew shop today. they've got this kit available for first-timers:

http://www.homebrewinparadise.com/Be...3&subcat_id=14

does that seem like a pretty good deal for $160?

the only thing i might not use is the bottling stuff since i'm pretty sure i'll go straight to kegging. might come in handy at some point later on if i wanna bottle a few tho..

keep in mind that i live in hawaii, so while there might be better deals online, the cost of shipping would most likely negate any savings.

thanks in advance

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Old 10-27-2011, 04:11 AM   #2
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Go for it and dont look back! Just make sure the ol' lady's on board with your new endeavors.

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Old 10-27-2011, 04:13 AM   #3
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... Forgot to mention... Start with a bigger brew kettle then you think you might need. You'll expand...

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Old 10-27-2011, 05:46 AM   #4
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Or you could buy the following from your LHBS:

1) fermenting bucket, with lid, airlock. ($12+3+1=$16)

2) bottling bucket with spigot (don't need a lid) ($12+3=$15)

3) autosiphon with 5-6 ft of tubing ($8+6=$14)

4) star San (various amounts available $8-20)

5) bottling wand ($8 )

6) bottle capper and 1 pound of bottle caps ($15+4=$19)

7) extract kit of your choice ($25-45)

8 ) brew pot. If you have a large (3 gal+) pot you can use that for now. If not I'd recommend getting an 8 gal aluminum pot so you can advance to all grain using BIAB without having to get another pot. If you look around you can find an 8 gal+ aluminum pot with ball valve for $60ish. Or you can get a turkey fryer kit on black Friday and add a ball valve to it. ($0-$90)

If you don't need a pot you can assemble everything for around $75 + an ingredient kit. With the kit you listed you ferment in the bucket, rack to the carboy, then back to the bucket for bottling. You can just ferment in a regular bucket and transfer to a bottling bucket to bottle. Star San > Iodophor.

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Old 10-27-2011, 04:43 PM   #5
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Or you could buy the following from your LHBS:

1) fermenting bucket, with lid, airlock. ($12+3+1=$16)

2) bottling bucket with spigot (don't need a lid) ($12+3=$15)

3) autosiphon with 5-6 ft of tubing ($8+6=$14)

4) star San (various amounts available $8-20)

5) bottling wand ($8 )

6) bottle capper and 1 pound of bottle caps ($15+4=$19)

7) extract kit of your choice ($25-45)

8 ) brew pot. If you have a large (3 gal+) pot you can use that for now. If not I'd recommend getting an 8 gal aluminum pot so you can advance to all grain using BIAB without having to get another pot. If you look around you can find an 8 gal+ aluminum pot with ball valve for $60ish. Or you can get a turkey fryer kit on black Friday and add a ball valve to it. ($0-$90)

If you don't need a pot you can assemble everything for around $75 + an ingredient kit. With the kit you listed you ferment in the bucket, rack to the carboy, then back to the bucket for bottling. You can just ferment in a regular bucket and transfer to a bottling bucket to bottle. Star San > Iodophor.

does the kit include a bucket and a carboy for the purpose of secondary fermentation? if i'm planning on kegging, i could just transfer to the keg instead, right?
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:21 PM   #6
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If you are definitely just kegging, I wouldn't do that kit since it has bottle capper, bottle caps, bottle filler, bottle brush, etc. that would be useless.

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Old 10-28-2011, 08:29 PM   #7
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does the kit include a bucket and a carboy for the purpose of secondary fermentation? if i'm planning on kegging, i could just transfer to the keg instead, right?
you need a bucket for primary, then you can rack straight to the keg.
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:53 AM   #8
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you need a bucket for primary, then you can rack straight to the keg.
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i'm planning on starting simple with a coopers kit. if i primary in the bucket and then transfer to the keg, is there anything else i need besides this?


STAR SAN 16 OUNCE 16.95 each 16.95 Remove
FERMENTER, 6.5 GALLON W/MARKS 14.95 each 14.95 Remove
FERMENTER LID, 6.5 GALLON 5.50 each 5.50 Remove
BUCKET SPIGOT 4.95 each 4.95 Remove
AIRLOCK THREE PIECE 1.35 each 1.35 Remove
STOPPER, BORED, #6.5 1.79 each 1.79 Remove
FERMOMETER STRIP 3.95 each 3.95 Remove
HYDROMETER,TRIPLE SCALE (.99-1.170) 7.95 each 7.95 Remove
TEST JAR FOR HYDROMETER 4.60 each 4.60 Remove
CORNELIUS KEG W/O-RINGS[BALL] 48.50 each 48.50 Remove
4.712 % Tax 5.21
Shopping List Total 115.70


i'm gonna be ordering the other various kegging hardware online (manifold, tubing, connectors, shanks, taps etc)
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:16 AM   #9
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I wouldn't put a spigot on your primary as they can leak. I would go with a autosiphon and tubing. You don't have to have a test jar for your hydrometer. You can use the tube it comes in. You have to hold on to it but it also takes a little less beer for a sample.

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Old 10-30-2011, 05:27 AM   #10
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Aloha,
That is an expensive kit by mainland standards. Did it include shipping? I believe you can do better
For $69 at Morebeer.com
Bottle of Star San Sanitizer (4oz)
3/8” Plastic Bottle Filler
Bag of Bottle Caps (1/4lb)
Bottle Capper
Reusable Mesh Steeping Bag
Reusable Mesh Hop Bags
Home Beermaking Book
Bottle Brush
Plastic Bucket Fermenter with Spigot
Plastic Bottling/Sanitation Bucket with Spigot
Bucket Lid with Hole
Airlock
Rubber Stopper with Hole (Fits Bucket Lid)
Hydrometer
Hydrometer Jar
5ft Vinyl Transfer Tubing
5 inch long dial thermometer

But the cheapest shipping on it is about $94.

So yes I believe your original find is a reasonable deal in Hawaii at $160. Living in paradise has a few drawbacks, not many but shipping cost can be and usually are outrageous.

Mahalo
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