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hereforbeer · 02-17-2011, 11:01 PM

I guess I might be leaving it too long then.

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DeafSmith · 02-18-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hereforbeer

I will try TSP first since the poster sounds like he's used it before.

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I found the thread I was referring to:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/home-made-pbw-safe-glass-safe-general-182939/

I'm going to try the TSP/90. If you use the regular TSP, let us know how that works.

WuWeiBrewing · 02-18-2011, 12:13 AM

Honestly, I just fill up one side of my sink with hot, soapy water and can submerge about 7 12oz. bottles (I have a shallow sink). A 24-hour soak softens up most labels. Anything that doesn't just peel off (the "white film" from the glue, for instance), scratches off very easily. Just something to consider, if you have the time to space out your de-labeling. You can avoid the extra chemicals this way too.

DeafSmith · 02-18-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WuWeiBrewing

Honestly, I just fill up one side of my sink with hot, soapy water and can submerge about 7 12oz. bottles (I have a shallow sink). A 24-hour soak softens up most labels. Anything that doesn't just peel off (the "white film" from the glue, for instance), scratches off very easily. Just something to consider, if you have the time to space out your de-labeling. You can avoid the extra chemicals this way too.

I think the white film the OP was talking about is from mineral deposits inside the bottles - at least that's what I have trouble with using straight OxiClean (depends on your water, I suppose). I don't have that problem when I use PBW, but PBW is really expensive.

hereforbeer · 02-18-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafSmith

I found the thread I was referring to:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/home-made-pbw-safe-glass-safe-general-182939/

I'm going to try the TSP/90. If you use the regular TSP, let us know how that works.

Allright man it is a plan.Let's be facebook buddies.

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hereforbeer · 02-18-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafSmith

I think the white film the OP was talking about is from mineral deposits inside the bottles - at least that's what I have trouble with using straight OxiClean (depends on your water, I suppose). I don't have that problem when I use PBW, but PBW is really expensive.

Yeah you're right. It is REALLY hard to get rid of that beautiful white stuff without an acidic thing.We need an oxiclean faq.

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DeafSmith · 02-18-2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hereforbeer

Allright man it is a plan.Let's be facebook buddies.

Ha - appreciate the offer, but I'm an old fart and don't do facebook. I'm so far behind the times my cell phone doesn't even take pictures.

shushikiary · 02-18-2011, 06:32 AM

Well, for removing bottles I soak for about 20 min at 120 F, but for cleaning the brewery, etc I soak at 180 F. Mostly because I know I will be sticking my hands in the water for the lable removing.

There are two boxes for the TSP, a green box and a red box that they carried at my lows. The red box was actually trisodiumphosphate on the box, the green one was some other TSP replacement that wasnt actually TSP, not sure what exactly was in it.

What I do know is that I mixed mine with the red box of TSP and it works great.

rustym · 02-18-2011, 10:01 AM

I use the Sierra Nevada bottles and I put 24 in my sink with hot water and about 1/2 scoop of Oxyclean. After about 20 minutes, the labels came right off, I wiped the residual glue off with a sponge and rinsed the heck out of them. I did this twice for 2 cases and had no film whatsoever. But I guess water quality/hardness can certainly be an issue.

BWN · 02-18-2011, 10:09 AM

I have really hard water and oxyclean leaves a film on my bottles. I use lemmishine it is what my wife has to put in the dishwasher to get rid of hard water spots. After I remove the labels and clean the bottles I have another bucket with that mixed in and shake them with that solution, it comes right off.