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Old 10-13-2009, 06:44 PM   #1
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Hi all!

So here is the story:

I now have 2 kegs converted over. One as a mash tun and on for the boil kettle. I also have another 5 gal ss pot and maybe a 7 gal aluminum (came with the burner). I have only one propane burner, I made the frame nice and sturdy to support the weight of the keg. It is maybe 2 ft tall? I just bought a 50' immersion chiller.

I am ready to go all grain but with only one burner, I am not sure how I can build a system? I had an idea of making a setup where I can move the burner under whichever vessel I need heat, instead of doing the mash on the burner, then removing the (very heavy) keg with grain and moving up from the gound the now full keg of wort back up to the burner. If I do that, it will definitely be a two man brew team.

So, since all/most of you are very intelligent builders and designers of systems, what ideas do you have for me? Remember, I have no pump so gravity will be used.

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Old 10-13-2009, 07:56 PM   #2
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A ten gallon batch would have 30-50 lbs of grain, and at least 100 pounds of water. You don't wanna lift 150 pounds of scalding hot mash anywhere, it's a recipe for complete and total disaster. If that slips you're gonna have severe burns over a majority of your body

That being said a burner weighs all of 10 pounds and is easy to move. Build your system so that the burner is not attached and move it when you need to. As soon as the funds are available get a second burner is my suggestion!



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Old 10-13-2009, 08:26 PM   #3
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Anyone have an idea on a rig to build that would allow the kegs to stay in place while I move the burner? I am now aware that moving hot, heavy kegs around would not be a good idea.

I am not too good of a designer but, I will give it a shot in the meantime.

Thanks!

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Old 10-13-2009, 10:08 PM   #4
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I say get a pump. It's 120 bucks or so in the group buy through AHS whenever that happens. Best 120 bucks you'll ever spend. Then you only need 1 burner.

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Old 10-13-2009, 10:43 PM   #5
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I say get a pump. It's 120 bucks or so in the group buy through AHS whenever that happens. Best 120 bucks you'll ever spend. Then you only need 1 burner.
Seriously, I cannot afford anymore equipment. I can get wood, nuts and bolts; that is about it. I wish I could just buy a pump, that would be nice. I have a baby on the way and I shouldn't have even purchased the few things I did.

I just hope I can work something out with the equipment I have.
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Build a 3 tier set-up. Make platforms for the burner to set on and move the burner from one step to the next. Search wood structures and let it fly.

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Use a cooler as your mash tun to maintain your temp and you'll only need one burner for your hlt or your boil kettle

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Old 10-14-2009, 01:20 AM   #8
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Seesaw, winch, pulley... Boil pot is your middle tier heat your water, dump to bottom tier which is your mlt, rest an hour, lift it to higher than the boil pot and drain back to boil pot and do your boil. Wash out your mlt, put it back on the ground to catch the boiled and cooled wort, pitch your yeast and ferment in it.
I've seen cherry pickers, garage rafters, exercise equipment, and even tree limbs used to lift the keg with some rope, wire or chain. Guess if you can get the wood, nuts and bolts you can put together an A frame to pulley up/down the kettle.

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Seesaw, winch, pulley... Boil pot is your middle tier heat your water, dump to bottom tier which is your mlt, rest an hour, lift it to higher than the boil pot and drain back to boil pot and do your boil. Wash out your mlt, put it back on the ground to catch the boiled and cooled wort, pitch your yeast and ferment in it.
I've seen cherry pickers, garage rafters, exercise equipment, and even tree limbs used to lift the keg with some rope, wire or chain. Guess if you can get the wood, nuts and bolts you can put together an A frame to pulley up/down the kettle.

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Damn, and I thought I was gonna be the first with the winch idea.

My plan is to buy a 15 dollar boat trailer winch from Northern Tool. Put it on the wall, run the cable up to the ceiling, through a pulley and back down to a threaded rod. The rod will have 2 hooks hanging from it that can be moved in and out, (held in place by nuts on the rod), to space them the same width as my keg/pot handles. The HLT, MLT, and boil kettle will sit on a squat wheeled platform, (plywood with a few castors on it), so it can roll back and forth. Whenever I need to put something on the burner, I roll the platform so the right pot/keggle is under the winch, hook on the hooks, winch it up, move the platform so the burner is under the pot/keggle, and lower it back down. To transfer from one pot to another, (HLT to MLT, MLT to BK), I lift one pot up, and open the valve in it to drain into the next.

The biggest "plus" i can see with this method is zero footprint. When I'm done, four ropes on the corners of the wheeled platform come up to the winch hook. I winch the whole thing up to the ceiling, BK, MLT, HLT, propane tank, and burner, and my garage is wide open again.

I haven't built it yet because I need to first invest in water sources/drains for my garage for winter brewing, (hoses aren't useful in winter!), but it's next on my list.
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When money is tight, just use muscles and time.
I still use the old heave ho, and will continue until my back says no more!!!! Just because I'm cheap, but not easy.
But really, a cooler as an MLT, a ladder, steps, or anything can act as a gravity fed sculpture.
Congratulations on a baby on the way.



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