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Old 12-08-2008, 10:05 PM   #1
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well im getting some more stuff for xmas, and just need to double check if what im asking for is correct. right now this is my set up.

now i pretty much have decided to get another cooler (same size) for the HLT, and pump, and quick disconnects. now i just need you guys to make sure this is going to all work out .
pump March High Temperature Brewing Pump | MoreBeer

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female Brass Hose - Female QD | MoreBeer

male Brass Hose - Male QD | MoreBeer


ok, so now the questions. the male fittings will each thread into the valves in the kettle and coolers. now, does the hose connect to the female fitting in any special way? and about into the pump?

i imagine i also could use a ball valve on the outlet of the pump, do i need anything other than a nipple out of the valve?

i know i will need 3 males on the coolers and the kettle, and a female for the inlet to the pump and also one for the outlet, correct? anything im missing?

thanks for the patience in advance guys.

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Old 12-08-2008, 10:49 PM   #2
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I wouldn't go with those QD's. Look at this thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/quick-disconnect-sources-48350/ . The brass coolant qd's from mcmaster are the balls. Better built than B3's, and you can get them exactly how you need. Remember, don't get the kind with flow stoppers!

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Old 12-09-2008, 12:10 AM   #3
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I wouldn't go with those QD's. Look at this thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/quick-disconnect-sources-48350/ . The brass coolant qd's from mcmaster are the balls. Better built than B3's, and you can get them exactly how you need. Remember, don't get the kind with flow stoppers!
very cool. so that narrows down the QD's.

i assume just use a threaded 3/8 barb for the inlet and the outlet of the pump?
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:25 AM   #4
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I went 1/2" on everything. Here is where I got my QDs.
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Look at the HFC35 series.

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so a 1/2 inch male in the kettle(or the MLT/HLT) to a female on the hose, connected to a 1/2 barb threaded into the pump, ball valve with a 1/2 inch barb in the outlet, and the outlet hose with another female QD. sound about right?

i feel a little stupid asking this, but do the hoses just slip into the female QD's? do you need a clamp for the hose and the barb for the inlet?

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A friend of mine put a bunch of these from McMaster Carr on his system, and they provide high flow, no leaks and aren't too expensive:

Male QD to 1/2 male NPT thread: 6739K59 $1.75
Female QD to 1/2 hose barb: 6739K64 $6.01

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very cool. so that narrows down the QD's.

i assume just use a threaded 3/8 barb for the inlet and the outlet of the pump?
I could be wrong, but I think it's actually 1/2". The pump head is MIP, so you'll need a FIP ball valve for the output (never restrict the intake, only the outlet) and a FIP male QD. Most people put the male part of the QD on all their "things" like kettles, pumps, etc. and use the female part on both side of their hoses. That way you can swap your hoses easier, and buy less of the $$$ female qd's. You don't want any hose directly hooked up to anything (like a pump) because you'll want to take them off for cleaning and hanging dry. It makes for better storage, too. I've been happy with this setup; I use 3 8 ft hoses between all my stuff, and it works well.
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I could be wrong, but I think it's actually 1/2". The pump head is MIP, so you'll need a FIP ball valve for the output (never restrict the intake, only the outlet) and a FIP male QD. Most people put the male part of the QD on all their "things" like kettles, pumps, etc. and use the female part on both side of their hoses. That way you can swap your hoses easier, and buy less of the $$$ female qd's. You don't want any hose directly hooked up to anything (like a pump) because you'll want to take them off for cleaning and hanging dry. It makes for better storage, too. I've been happy with this setup; I use 3 8 ft hoses between all my stuff, and it works well.
when i was saying 3/8, i meant the barb, the threads that i was speaking off are 1/2-sorry for the confusion. ok so here is a quick drawing (amazing, i know) of what i will get-

total of 5 males for the 2 coolers, kettle, and 2 for the inlet and outlet of pump. 4 females, 2 for each hose. ball valve for the outlet of the pump.

all the males being 1/2 thread - 3/8 barb from mcmaster-carr 6739K59
females being the 3/8 coupling from " " 6739K64

ballvalve Brass Ball Valve 1/2" Pipe Size, Male X Female 47865K43 (threads INTO the pump, with a male QD threaded into it)

looking good?
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Nice drawing, I like your use of chiaroscuro shading and contour...it really brings that boil kettle to life!!! Seriously tho, thanks for posting this. I just did a sketch of the same exact thing yesterday, as I will soon be buying a pump as well. Once christmas has passed, daddy gets to spend whatever is left over !

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