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Old 12-02-2009, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default Got a keg, riddled with guilt...

Well, not really riddled with guilt, but I've had ups and downs as it's been sitting in the garage.

I've got a Guinness keg that I got from a local classified ad website. The guy claimed that his buddy owns a bar and that it was legit. I didn't know any better and "purchased" the keg. After speaking with my LHBS, he was very adamant about making sure I knew that this keg was without a doubt the property of Guinness or its distributor. By even having it in my garage, I'm in possession of stolen property (according to LHBS). To add another element to it, I live in a state where people cannot purchase kegs of beer (only bars and taverns can have these- kegs are outlawed for end-user consumption).

Sooo...even if I were to try to give this keg back, I'm not sure of what course of action I could take since there aren't any avenues for people (and not businesses) to return these things for a return of deposit. Even then, I have no receipt or evidence of where it came from except that it is indeed a Guinness keg. The thought of driving out of state isn't appealing to me, especially if it is uncertain if a liquor store would even offer me any deposit back.

I wouldn't mind just using a plasma torch and cutting a hole in the top and making it a brew kettle, but my LHBS proprietor's scolding remarks about stolen property echo in my head. What do y'all think about this? From what I've read, these kegs don't ever legally make it into the hands of the public as fully intact units...only as scrap sold from the Keg shredder. If I'm sweating this too much, does anyone have any insight as to where I could get a completely legal keg (online?)?

Other than that, just to throw in something completely different, what about turning it into a fermenter? I'm thinking I like the corny keg lid better than the sanke valve on top, especially since it allows for easy cleaning of the keg and still allows pressure. Thoughts on this too?

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:42 PM   #2
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you got it keep it..next time get a legit one. and the LHBS would love to sale you one for alot more cash..

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:42 PM   #3
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Guy said it was legit, just go with it. LHBS owner sells brewpots doesn't he? Hmmm conflict of interest?

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Old 12-02-2009, 11:14 PM   #4
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It really is a gray area morally. No one is going to knock on your door and demand their keg back. If you go to any lengths to "return" the keg to the rightful owner you most likely will find that no one will take it from you.

If it really bothers you then call the local distributor and explain to them you have a keg and what they would advise. I'm willing to be they will say they don't want it.

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You asked and the seller said it was cool. You are golden.

Tell your LHBS guy to get stuffed. I'd say he's a jaggoff for laying a guilt trip on you.

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Old 12-02-2009, 11:21 PM   #6
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Yeah, if you're really worried, just stick with the "I didn't know" story. It was true at the time you bought it. At any rate, good job grabbing a keg. I'm still trying to find one that doesn't cost me my life's savings.

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WillPall, where do you live? I may have an extra one laying around.

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Time to fire up the plasma torch.

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WillPall, where do you live? I may have an extra one laying around.
I live in Auburn, Al. A little far for a quick drive I think. Thanks for the offer though. Maybe I'll luck up on one that somebody didn't turn in after a party.
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I've said it before, but stolen property is stolen property. If my son-in-law steals a car, and then gives it to me, it's still stolen property even if I didn't steal it myself. If someone pays the deposit on a keg, it's not THEIR keg. They simply don't get their deposit back if it's not returned. The deposits on kegs don't cover the actual cost of the keg. That doesn't give them the right to "sell" it for the deposit.

Deposits are rising, since some people have taken to keeping kegs and/or turning them in for the scrap value. Having something that isn't sold properly isn't right. Stolen is stolen, no matter how you slice it. The keg belongs to the brewery. Unless THEY sold it to you, or their distributor, it's a stolen keg.

If this doesn't bother you, fine, but let's not talk about it on the forum. If it does bother you, then do something about it but let's not talk about it on the forum.

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