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Old 01-05-2010, 02:30 PM   #1
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Default Good Online Store for Double Pole GFCI Breakers?

Title says it all. I have found a few but they seem higher price than expected. I am looking specifically for a Square D compatible Homeline 240V Double Pole GFCI 30Amp.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Title says it all. I have found a few but they seem higher price than expected. I am looking specifically for a Square D compatible Homeline 240V Double Pole GFCI 30Amp.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
If you are interested, I have a brand new 30 Amp, 4 Wire, 8 Gauge, GFCI built-in, 17 Foot cable, which includes the male plug that I might want to get rid of. I'm considering selling it because I need more than 30amps.

It has never been wired.

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Let me know if you have any interest...

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Old 01-05-2010, 05:23 PM   #3
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Piggybacking on this.

Where to find a double pole GFCI without breaking the bank.

My home is wired with a Double D panel so I would like a Double D GFCI. My search only shows Canadian websites advertising them. I plan on wiring into a solo box as I do not live in my house now but rent in another city but would like to install it into my home when I get to live there.

I have seen a 50A 120/240 Jacuzzi panel at Lowes for $79 with an electrical box which seems reasonable considering the outrageous costs of double pole GFCI CBs. The only problem is the box is huge and I would like to make this look nice or at least contain the whole package in a rack mounted computer case i have and not have a huge metal box just to hold one CB.

While I am at it how many Watts can a 30A 240V CB support? What are you doing that may need more than 30A Ed?

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Home Depot carries double pole GFCI breakers for the homeline/square D boxes. The spa panel that you are looking at, is actually a 100 or 125 amp( I don't recall which) subpanel. It comes with 1 50 amp gfci ( GE brand) breaker, and spaces to add up to 4 more circuits.

You could always feed this subpanel from your main panel, and then feed whatever box you want on your stand.

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I got mine on eBay.

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Got my 50A at Menards for $99

I think my 30A was about $80

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Where to find a double pole GFCI without breaking the bank.

My home is wired with a Double D panel so I would like a Double D GFCI. My search only shows Canadian websites advertising them. I plan on wiring into a solo box as I do not live in my house now but rent in another city but would like to install it into my home when I get to live there.

I have seen a 50A 120/240 Jacuzzi panel at Lowes for $79 with an electrical box which seems reasonable considering the outrageous costs of double pole GFCI CBs. The only problem is the box is huge and I would like to make this look nice or at least contain the whole package in a rack mounted computer case i have and not have a huge metal box just to hold one CB.

While I am at it how many Watts can a 30A 240V CB support? What are you doing that may need more than 30A Ed?
First, watts is calculated by: Volts X Amps = Watts.
So for your question: 240 X 30 = 7200.

I am going all electric... on a 50amp GFCI, I plan to run;
5500 watt HLT OR 5500 watt BK (not both at the same time)
1500 watt RIMs Heater
2 March Pumps
BCS-460 Controller
Laptop Computer
26 gigawatt Flux Capacitor

When I originally got the 30amp cord, may plan was to only run one or the other of the 5500 watt elements from it and have a separate 120v line into the panel. I decided to go to a single cord for the rig.

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I am pushing my 50A with:

9000W
BCS
(2) LG 3-MD-HC pumps
E-bay cooling fan

I actually have to start the pumps first (the amps at start up would exceed my circuit capability if I had 9000W of heating power running concurrently)

The initial inrush on the pumps is 8+ amps each... then they run at 2.4A

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Thanks for the ideas guys.

I will think about that cord Pickles.

The jacuzzi panel seams like a better idea now knowing it could be running multiple circuits. What I would really like though is a Square D CB, unfortunately I do not have the Homeline panel but the pro one. I see GFCIs for this in single pole configuration but not double pole.

One question on the dual voltage wires though. I have read that the jacuzzi panel or the 30A cord needs to be fed 4 wires to work. I currently live in an older rental. I was planning on wiring off the Dryer outlet which is only 240V.

Does this cord or panel really need the neutral wire or just need it to run 120V in the same panel? Would there be a danger from running only the 240V to a panel or control box?

Could I run an individual wire from a 120v outlet into the panel to achieve the needed power? The nearest source to the intended brew area is a GFCI outlet. I am afraid of running it through a second GFCI and getting inadvertent tripping.

My plan is to run only a BK at 5500 watts, which should be under 23 amps, then a pump and a PID, SSR combo, off the top of my head the PID requires a 12V power supply? I do not think a pump and power supply should take more than 7 amps so a 30 A CB should work if can figure out the 4 wire issue.

If I run a four wire does the two pole GFCI protect the neutral wire and 120V circuits as well?

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