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nicksteck 01-29-2009 01:26 AM

Found a cool fix for the cold weather
 
Living and brewing in Minnesota can be cold, i brew in my garage and hook up to my outside garden hose, the water temp in the house is about 47 degrees, by the time it hits the garage it's about 38-40 degrees. so that means i have to heat my water about 70-80 degrees to brew and about 140 to clean.

i found this outside faucet and the local plumbing shop and thought it would save a lot time on brew day. i tested my hot water in the house and it was 121 degrees, i may drop 10 degrees but it's still better than 40.

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maltMonkey 01-29-2009 02:48 AM

Pretty cool! I had no idea they made those.

Luckily my kitchen is close to my garage so I just carry hot water from the tap out to my garage 3 gallons at a time -- I have no patience for waiting for water to boil either.

_Kyle_ 01-29-2009 03:51 AM

So are you saying that you want to brew with hot tap water? That's not really a good idea.

SSRider 01-29-2009 07:39 AM

You have to be careful using hot water, the inside of the tanks can have stuff you dont want in your beer, especially if the tank is older. I would do a water test on the hot water to make sure its good.

nicksteck 01-29-2009 02:01 PM

i was alway told that the water heater collects sediment, and you are heating you water in a brew kettle vs water heater, i don't get it?

GilaMinumBeer 01-29-2009 02:17 PM

Yeah. I don;t get why people post cautionary staement with nothing to back them up either. I guess it cause they heard it from "somewhere".

I'll take a somewhat edumacated stab at this tho'.

At 121*F, if that is the true temp in the tank, I would be concerned about bacterial load. I would be less concerned if you tank water temp was above 140*F. IIRC, between 80*F and 140*F are ideal temps for bacteria IF they are present in the system. Given that most water supplies are heavily treated to combat this, I doubt it's a real issue.

As for sedimentation, it is possible that the mineral load in the tank could be elevated but not likely. Yes, older tanks have sedimentation issues but taht is usually carbonate and that crap packs so hard you'd nneed a chisel to break it loose once it builds up. Most newer tanks have innard designed to minimize sedimentation within the tank.

I suggest you try this, fill a clear glass with your piping hot water and look at it for a while. If it's cloudy or you see a notable amount of "debris" floating around seriously re-consider. Likely, you will at first see cloudy water from air entrainment (thanks to the bubbler) and it will quickly clear.

Let the glass set for a while and check on it later for any sediment in the bottom of the glass. If the bottom of the glass gets coated, re-consider.

If all looks good I say go for it. I mean you ARE still going to boil right?

At the least you won't have need to heat cleaning water and you should be able to reduce the time to boil.

Also know that if you filter your water that most filters break down, or begin to, at 100*F. You can buy specialty filters at a higher rated temp but they are costly.

Personally, I would love to have a hose bib in the garage for brewing. As it goes right now, I run a hose from the bath faucet. One day I plan to install a bib in the garage furnace closet.

maltMonkey 01-29-2009 02:22 PM

I have brewed over 40 batches using nothing BUT water from my hot water heater.

My water heater is 3 years old.

My beer is good.

MSUConrad 01-29-2009 02:43 PM

+1 on brewing with hot water. Saves time and propane.

nicksteck 01-29-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GilaMinumBeer (Post 1098906)
Yeah. I don;t get why people post cautionary staement with nothing to back them up either. I guess it cause they heard it from "somewhere".

I'll take a somewhat edumacated stab at this tho'.

At 121*F, if that is the true temp in the tank, I would be concerned about bacterial load. I would be less concerned if you tank water temp was above 140*F. IIRC, between 80*F and 140*F are ideal temps for bacteria IF they are present in the system. Given that most water supplies are heavily treated to combat this, I doubt it's a real issue.

As for sedimentation, it is possible that the mineral load in the tank could be elevated but not likely. Yes, older tanks have sedimentation issues but taht is usually carbonate and that crap packs so hard you'd nneed a chisel to break it loose once it builds up. Most newer tanks have innard designed to minimize sedimentation within the tank.

I suggest you try this, fill a clear glass with your piping hot water and look at it for a while. If it's cloudy or you see a notable amount of "debris" floating around seriously re-consider. Likely, you will at first see cloudy water from air entrainment (thanks to the bubbler) and it will quickly clear.

Let the glass set for a while and check on it later for any sediment in the bottom of the glass. If the bottom of the glass gets coated, re-consider.

If all looks good I say go for it. I mean you ARE still going to boil right?

At the least you won't have need to heat cleaning water and you should be able to reduce the time to boil.

Also know that if you filter your water that most filters break down, or begin to, at 100*F. You can buy specialty filters at a higher rated temp but they are costly.

Personally, I would love to have a hose bib in the garage for brewing. As it goes right now, I run a hose from the bath faucet. One day I plan to install a bib in the garage furnace closet.

thanks for the good info, i will try this tonight

Laughing_Gnome_Invisible 01-29-2009 02:55 PM

Brewing with the hot water or not, I'm a bit pissed to find that they have mixers like that! I have fitted seperate hot and cold frost proof taps to my outside. A mixer would have been way better! :(


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