Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Equipment/Sanitation > First HERMS System
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-19-2011, 06:39 AM   #1
brewhanford
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Hanford
Posts: 4
Default First HERMS System

Hi Homebrew community! I have been studying the art of homebrewing for a long time and I am finally ready to jump in. I have put together some drawings as a representation of my plans. So I am posting them here to glean from some of the experience all of you have. This system is designed for use with the Brewtroller. So does my HERMS system seem like it will work well?

Brewery Diagram
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...Q&w=1012&h=813

Step 1: Fill the BK and HLT then heat to strike/HERMS temperature. Place grains in MLT.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...4&w=1012&h=813

Step 2: Pump the strike water from the BK into the MLT.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...U&w=1012&h=813

Step 3: HERMS pumping through false bottom.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...8&w=1012&h=813

Step 4: Pump wort from MLT into BK and use the water in the HLT to mash out. Add hops at appropriate time.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...Q&w=1012&h=813

Step 5: Pump wort through chiller and into fermentor.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub...c&w=1012&h=813

__________________
brewhanford is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 10:15 AM   #2
dezman
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Marquette, Michigan
Posts: 147
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Damn what a way to start up. Nice lookin setup, everything looks like it should work fine. Not sure you need a water input into your boil kettle, Whats the function of that? This thing has all the bells and whistles, hope you can get it all together! Be sure to post some pics as you go along i'm interested to see how this turns out.

__________________
dezman is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 11:48 AM   #3
MaxOut
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hughesville, Maryland
Posts: 713
Liked 59 Times on 41 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Looks like a good design. I would put the temp probe for the heat exchanger right at the outlet of the heat exchanger not in the MLT. Post your progress...

__________________
MaxOut is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 01:30 PM   #4
scottatdrake
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 90
Default

Wow, you're going to automate everything. Pretty cool. What are you going to use for a volume sensor? The ones I've seen look awfully finicky.

__________________
scottatdrake is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 01:36 PM   #5
scottatdrake
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 90
Default

What are the two different temperature sensors on the MLT for?

__________________
scottatdrake is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 02:20 PM   #6
trent
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 358
Liked 23 Times on 14 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottatdrake View Post
What are the two different temperature sensors on the MLT for?
I think one for the mash, and one for out temp from the HTL.

I would also measure at the HTL at MaxOut suggested.
__________________
trent is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 03:35 PM   #7
MaxOut
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hughesville, Maryland
Posts: 713
Liked 59 Times on 41 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Another suggestion would be to make the lower connection to your heat exchanger coil the outlet. I found I get better flow rates pumping down through the coil. Put your temp probe in a T right at the coil outlet prior to your sparge/recirculate valve. Use a long probe for the HLT and MLT so you can get to the center of the kettle. Have fun with your build.

MaxOut is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 08:21 PM   #8
audger
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: ., Connecticut
Posts: 1,497
Liked 40 Times on 40 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

have you priced out motorized, stainless steel, 3-way ball valves? you are looking at $2-3k just in valves...

also whats that extra arm in the mash tun for (below the sparge arm, connected to the same motorized 3-way)?

__________________
audger is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 08:35 PM   #9
brewhanford
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Hanford
Posts: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dezman View Post
Damn what a way to start up. Nice lookin setup, everything looks like it should work fine. Not sure you need a water input into your boil kettle, Whats the function of that? This thing has all the bells and whistles, hope you can get it all together! Be sure to post some pics as you go along i'm interested to see how this turns out.
We are hoping to start work on it in about a month as the parts come in. We chose to fill the boil kettle along with the HLT so that we already have the HLT ready for heat exchange. Otherwise we would have to refill and reheat the HLT after using the water for the mash.
__________________
brewhanford is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2011, 08:43 PM   #10
brewhanford
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Hanford
Posts: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by audger View Post
have you priced out motorized, stainless steel, 3-way ball valves? you are looking at $2-3k just in valves...

also whats that extra arm in the mash tun for (below the sparge arm, connected to the same motorized 3-way)?
Maybe we are thinking of two different things. The valves I have priced are about $80 each. That's $400 for five SS ball valves. Although currently they are out of stock. http://www.oscsys.com/3-Way-Motorized-Ball-Valve.html

The extra arm is a floating silicone arm in order to recirculate back into the MLT with reduced chance of hot side aeration.
__________________
brewhanford is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Automated HERMS system blackheart Equipment/Sanitation 403 05-31-2014 12:11 PM
HERMS system ideas wired247 Equipment/Sanitation 5 07-28-2011 06:50 PM
Single tier non-HERMS system McCuckerson Equipment/Sanitation 3 12-01-2009 03:21 PM
My new Herms system (pics) foppa78 Equipment/Sanitation 22 02-02-2008 06:30 PM
HERMS system on Craigslist Lost Pirate Equipment/Sanitation 2 08-28-2007 05:46 PM