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Old 09-24-2010, 04:15 AM   #11
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I think people get too hung on "code". I had an electrician over this spring to talk about splicing into my stove line to add a plug in the garage for my brewery. I asked about code, he said, it's your house. You're allowed to do whatever you want as long as you run the appropriate wire size for the load.
I'm not exactly for or against adherence to code, but I have to wonder what the local inspector would have to say about 300,000 BTU worth of burners cranking in the garage.
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:36 AM   #12
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I think people get too hung on "code". I had an electrician over this spring to talk about splicing into my stove line to add a plug in the garage for my brewery. I asked about code, he said, it's your house. You're allowed to do whatever you want as long as you run the appropriate wire size for the load.
I'd suspect that your "electrician" isn't to hip with the realities of insurance and law. If you do something that is not to code in your home and burn it down you can be sure the insurance company will not pay you if they know about it. They will look for any reason not to pay a claim.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:12 AM   #13
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Why would anyone ever tell an insurance company the truth?

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I got an idea for a fuse: if anyone can find the old fashioned screw in fuses that went into a light bulb socket thread, you could use one in combination with a porcelain light bulb base on the hot feed for an inline fuse. Those things are pretty antique and not codeworthy but if they're available then that would work.

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:53 PM   #15
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I like the idea of a e-brewing forum.

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Old 09-24-2010, 02:01 PM   #16
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I'd suspect that your "electrician" isn't to hip with the realities of insurance and law. If you do something that is not to code in your home and burn it down you can be sure the insurance company will not pay you if they know about it. They will look for any reason not to pay a claim.
My electrician is the owner and master electrician of the largest commercial electric company in my town. I'd say he has a very good grasp on code and I'll take his advice over anyone on this forum any day.
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:40 PM   #17
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An electrical sub-forum is a *GREAT* idea! (Says Kal as I sit here writing up how my control panel was built for my new www.TheElectricBrewery.com website).

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I feed 10/3 (30A/240V) into my control panel. A 30A breaker sits in the house breaker panel to protect the wiring in the house that goes to the control panel. A GFCI sits in the cord that plugs into wall socket into the which the control panel plugs. This protects the brewer.

I don't feel that additional breakers are neeed in the control panel, but I do use a single 7A fuse in a holder ($2 total) inside the control panel. It's placed between one of the HOT (30A/120V) inputs to the box and the 15A/120V hot bus used to power my PIDs, lights, pumps, etc. Normally no more than 3-4A should be flowing into this bus.

I don't understand why you'd use a more expensive resettable breaker for this as it should only trip if ever there's a catastrophic failure of some sort. If my 7A fuse blows (worth 10 cents) it's because something failed completely and needs to be repaired. You don't just reset the breaker and replace the fuse.

This is different than a house breaker panel. Resettable breakers make sense in that sort of setup since you never know how many things may be plugged into a circuit so the chance of tripping a circuit breaker are much greater. With our control panels that is not true since they're closed systems.

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An electrical sub-forum is a *GREAT* idea! (Says Kal as I sit here writing up how my control panel was built for my new www.TheElectricBrewery.com website).
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a) freaking LOVE your rig and your site, I think I've been clicking refresh everyday for the control panel build.

b) seconded, thirded on the electrical subforum
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Old 09-29-2010, 03:54 PM   #19
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a) freaking LOVE your rig and your site, I think I've been clicking refresh everyday for the control panel build.
Thanks! I'm about 20-30 hours into writing the control panel build information. Probably have another 40-100 hours to go. There's *LOTS* of information here so it'll likely be split into 2-3 parts.

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Old 09-30-2010, 04:43 AM   #20
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Why would anyone ever tell an insurance company the truth?
Thing is after your house burns down there will be a fire inspector that comes around to determine how and where it started. It will all be covered in his report.
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