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Old 10-18-2006, 08:30 PM   #11
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does idophore or onestep type sanitizers lose their power after time or what?
The easiest way to deal with idophor (in my non-expert opinion) is to mix it according to it's own instructions and observe the amber/brown color it dilutes to in the correct amount of water. As/if it gets lighter, it is less effective. I have been using it for a while, I just go with the color. As long as I see some faint browns I know it is doing it's job.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:30 PM   #12
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i thought sanitize was to clean, sterilize was to kill the microbes...

i use the iodophor to sanitize if i was mistaken then.
Clean = get rid of dirt + slime.
Sanitize = kill almost all of the bugs
Sterilize = kill ALL the bugs (impossible to do in a homebrewing setup)
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:32 PM   #13
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idophor method is the way to go...

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Old 10-18-2006, 08:32 PM   #14
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a friend of mine had a good system going.. he first filled his brew kettle with water and added sanitizer... and let his small things set in the kettle.. and while that was sanitizing, transfered sanitizer to the carboy with his autosiphon, thus sanitizing the autosiphon, and then swirled around the couple of gallons in the carboy...there ya go... thought it was a good way...

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Old 10-18-2006, 08:46 PM   #15
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About a half gallon to a gallon of star san solution into a clean carboy (I store mine clean and dry, inverted on the shelf). Shake vigorously for 30 seconds. Pour liquid back into sani bucket. Put carboy on a carboy dryer while I brew. The carboys drains some of the bubbles out and when it is time to put the wort in it I flip it over and drop teh beer on top of the star san, which has nothing in it to cause off tastes and apparently breaks down into things that are good for beer anyway.

Star san bubbles will sanitize just fine, no need for liquid contact, just bubble contact.

Things that will infect your beer don't 'fly', especially up. Thus an inverted carboy or bucket won't get contaminated in most enviornments.

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Old 10-18-2006, 09:22 PM   #16
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What is with this star san, I have been making wine for years and have always used potassium metabisulfite as a sanitzer. When I started brewing I just kept using it. It is cheap and reuseable for about six months. Is star san the best way to clean?

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Old 10-18-2006, 10:25 PM   #17
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I bought a big Rubbermaid container to hold all my gear, all the hoses and racking canes and bungs and carboy caps and airlocks, all the small stuff. On brew day, I sanitize the fermenter with 2.5 gallons of Iodophor solution (one capful), then pour that into the Rubbermaid tub holding whatever gear I'm using that day. I can just let stuff soak (it's already clean) until I need it. When I need something to dry out, I also have one of those adjustable collanders that I set up to let things drain (keeps it sanitized so I can use it to aerate my wort on the way into the bucket). Works well, and I only need one capful of Iodophor for everything.

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Old 10-18-2006, 10:33 PM   #18
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thank you guys for the clarification! not up on me lingo

you'd need an autoclave to sterilize everything lol

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Old 10-19-2006, 12:25 AM   #19
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I just put 2.5 gals of mixed water and star san (bubbled) in my "clean" carboy and swirl it, turn it upside down, swirl it again, make sure the whole inside gets wet then dump the star san into an empty bucket and throw everything else needing sanitizing in there. I don't shake, I just make sire it all geys wet.

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From my limited experience I just add a gallon of water with the correct amount of iodophor ad swirl around till it completely coated. Dump into clean sink for santizing everything else. Put the carboy in a carboy dryer.

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