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Old 02-27-2012, 03:26 AM   #1
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Default Does anyone get a funky dishwasher glass taste on the first beer?

Everyday I get home, strip off the bike gear, and draw a beer from the kegerator. I sit back in my chair and focus on relaxing and begin to think about beer again. Oh, you know. It starts with drinking, then progresses to making, and then ends up with me obsessed with the knowledge available on this website.

Sometimes I am getting off tastes that are NOT consistent. One day the beer seems to taste like the quality I hope shows I am getting better at this and the next day it is really off. Is anyone else experiencing this? Should I rinse my glass first? I am thinking left over dishwasher stuff. WIERD! Other causes.....okay, I know it could be the beer, but..... I don't think I would get such a swing in taste in a day or two two months after kegging.

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:46 AM   #2
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How clean is your tap? Maybe keep a spray bottle of starsan on hand, use after the last pour to spray and clean the inside?

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Old 02-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #3
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Your glass must still have soap residue. When washing make sure to rinse with really hot water to remove soap. Using cool clean water as a pre rinse before consumption usually gives me good results. Good kuck

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Old 02-27-2012, 11:37 AM   #4
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I started where you are

It is your dishwasher. It's leaving crap in your glasses whether you can see it or not. My wife thought I was nuts (hell, still does) but I was convinced. I started hand washing all my beer-related glassware and that helped a whole bunch, but not completely.

Eventually I bought a stand-up sink brush like they use in bars and use BEERCLEAN powder to clean all my glassware. I finally have proper "beer-clean" glassware, and to me it's totally worth the effort. Tasteless, odorless, vastly improved head retention and lacing, and much better carbonation retention through the session as well.

So if you're like me and you can detect that crap on your glass, it's totally worth it for your relaxation & enjoyment to put the effort into making a good home for your beer!

I'm pretty sure I spent ~$50 on amazon to get the brush and two tubs of beerclean, which will last a LONG time.

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Old 02-28-2012, 01:55 AM   #5
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How clean is your tap? Maybe keep a spray bottle of starsan on hand, use after the last pour to spray and clean the inside?
Tektojp,
It has been three weeks since the last cleaning of those lines with a water rinse, PBW soak, water rinses, and then star san soak. The tap is a Perlick creamer faucet. I think its clean.

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I went down to the sink and washed a glass fresh out of the dishwasher. I'll be darned if it didn't have small bubbles on the side when I first put water in it and swirled. I used Dawn to wash it and also rinsed well (mostly surfactant) and then hand dried with a cotton dish drying cloth. That glass sparkled.

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It is your dishwasher. It's leaving crap in your glasses whether you can see it or not. My wife thought I was nuts (hell, still does) but I was convinced. I started hand washing all my beer-related glassware and that helped a whole bunch, but not completely.
Cscade,
I tested two glasses by hand washing and two straight from the dishwasher. All had about a tasters amount of beer in each. Both from the dishwasher tasted quite a bit different from the two that did not. I definitely could get a better taste of hops from the hand washed glass. I will definitely hand wash from now on!

Thanks all! I call it problem solved.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:03 AM   #6
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Cscade,
You got me looking and I found this link saying pretty much what all of you are saying.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/glassware

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Old 02-28-2012, 04:48 AM   #7
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Pbw in the dishwasher works great. I bought the 50lb bucket because of it. Cascade is crap just like the other detergents.

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I always hand wash my beer glasses, rinse thoroughly with hot water and turn upside down on a rack to drain for a few seconds. Then I use an ounce or two of distilled water as a final rinse on the inside of the glass, dry only the outside of the glass with a dishcloth and put the glass back on the rack to let the inside air dry.

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I agree on the hand washing. Generally I just use good hot water to wash my beer glasses out when I'm done with them and let them air dry. You get rid of the possibility of left over soap. After almost 20 years, my wife finally knows to leave my beer glasses alone...lol.

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Pbw in the dishwasher works great. I bought the 50lb bucket because of it. Cascade is crap just like the other detergents.
I'll second this. PBW in the dishwasher does work great. Just remember that PBW has no ability to handle oils or grease, so only use it on beverage-related items otherwise you'll get an incomplete clean.

@BrewHobby1: I'm glad the difference stood out! Now just wait for it, eventually you'll be as fanatical as me
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