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Old 01-02-2008, 03:15 PM   #1
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Default Did you buy a cheap turkey fryer and returned it?

Getting equipped for AG, bought a cheap turkey fryer, Dick's Sporting Goods.

This is a low quality construction and material, which, I am sure, is common for the rice range... It would work but I don't know if I want to keep it.

My own partial answers:
1 maybe my brewing deserves better?
2 keep the pot for HLT use later

SWMABO says "get the good stuff..!"
(note that we are both old enough to be the parents of some forum members.. so it is not like I' m gonna keep upgrading...!!)

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Old 01-02-2008, 03:29 PM   #2
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From experience, 7.5 gal turkey fryers are BARELY suitable for 5 gal batches. It's what I have right now, and it's constantly a stress point when trying to get to a boil, because there is just NO headspace in this thing!

I guess if you kept your boils short - less than 45 min or so - you could collect less than 7 gal wort since you get less evap, and then it would not be such a tight squeeze.

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Old 01-02-2008, 03:33 PM   #3
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I use a 7.5 gallon stainless pot and regularly have boil overs since I start with 6 gallons preboil typically. If you are going to buy once and buy right start with a converted keg. I wish I would have.

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The key to avoiding boil overs is to lower the heat almost to the point of turning it off just as the wort starts to foam up. You have to watch very closely.

Boil on a very low flame for the first several minutes, then gradually raise the heat as the hot break falls away.

I learned this trick making beef and chicken stock as a restaurant cook. Mopping up 10 gallons of stock in front of an angry french chef is not fun.

Also, don't add your first hop addition until after the hot break subsides.

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Old 01-02-2008, 03:51 PM   #5
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What if your first hop addition is FWH?

That was my problem on the RIS. I had a FWH and then a 60 as soon as i hit boil. Added the 60 and BOOM!

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What if your first hop addition is FWH?

That was my problem on the RIS. I had a FWH and then a 60 as soon as i hit boil. Added the 60 and BOOM!
Even if you do a FWH, aggressively lowering the heat as the wort comes to a boil should still help.

Once the wort is boiling, it doesn't need as much heat to keep it boiling. I usually run my burner at max to get it up to boiling, turn it down nearly to off when the hot break rises, then gradually raise it to about 1/4 or 1/2 once the hot break subsides and the first hops are in. I have not had a boil over yet (knock on wood).
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Sounds to me like SWMBO has already spoken.

And I'd have to agree with her, if you can afford the good stuff, don't bother with Cheap A$$ equipment or you will forever be upgrading or wishing you could.

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I probably just need a high-quality propane regulator then. Mine (crappy 10psi bayou classic) doesn't adjust like you're talking about. It's pretty much a choice between "on", "really on", and "OMG I'M MELTIIIIIING".

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If you're trying to get 5 finished gallons of beer and you're going all grain, 7.5 gallon pots are not going to do it. Let's face it, no one wants to stand there and micromanage a boil. Get at LEAST a 40qt pot if you want 5 gallon batches. If you want to move up to 10 gallons, you'll need a 15 gallon pot. If money is tight, that means a converted 1/2bbl keg. If money is no object, go with a wider/shorter kettle, aluminum is fine. I believe everyone uses kegs because they're cheaper, not better. They take a while to heat up.

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If you're trying to get 5 finished gallons of beer and you're going all grain, 7.5 gallon pots are not going to do it. Let's face it, no one wants to stand there and micromanage a boil. Get at LEAST a 40qt pot if you want 5 gallon batches. If you want to move up to 10 gallons, you'll need a 15 gallon pot. If money is tight, that means a converted 1/2bbl keg. If money is no object, go with a wider/shorter kettle, aluminum is fine. I believe everyone uses kegs because they're cheaper, not better. They take a while to heat up.
It is a tight fit sometimes, but 7.5 to 8 gallons pots work just fine for normal gravity 5 gallon batches.

I have an 8 gallon pot and I routinely collect just over 6 gallons of wort. The only part of the boil I have to micromanage is the hot break. After that I can walk away without any problems. The key is not running your burner any hotter than you need to achieve a steady rolling boil.
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