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Old 12-14-2006, 12:53 AM   #21
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but I don't know typical kettle and corny dimensions.
Kegs are about 16 inches in dia and 23 1/2" high. They vary a bit depending on where they came from.

Cornies are 8" dia and 25" tall.

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Old 12-14-2006, 12:55 AM   #22
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I've never figured out how to cut a board and make it longer. Maybe that is why I'm not a carpenter !
If you cut the board at an angle and slide the two pieces it makes it longer (and thinner)...
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*chuckle... now instead of a board that is too short, its too narrow ! At least it isn't too short anymore.

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There is some nice stuff out there.

Here is a nice, simple HERMs system. He did the same thing I am going to do. The second cooler is his heater water. I think this idea is catching on. I like how there is no excess plumbing or anything, just connect up the hoses and go.

http://www.djlarrylive.com/index.html

I love how he used the small cooler as the heater water. He doesn't need anywhere near 50 feet of tubing in there, especially if he would add a stirrer.

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Old 12-14-2006, 03:02 AM   #25
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I'm waffling on the shape and size of the mash vessel. I'm getting excited about brewing 12 gallon batches. My boil keg is 15.5 gallons, so I should be able to boil 13sih gallons, right ?

It appears that a 10 gallon Gott is good for about 14 pounds of grain. Which is 30 pnts x 24 / 12 gallons = 1.060. Max. It would be nice to have a little more capacity than that.

And yet I want to brew 6 gallon batches of light beers from time to time. If I did that the bed depth in a rectangular would be pretty shallow. With the Gott it would be OK though.

So what is the solution ? Multiple mash vessels ? (I fly sparge and have multiple step mashes.)

The other issue is not to get a cooler that is too wide for the width of the stand. The Gott is good that way.

A 48 Quart Igloo Cube is less than half price of a Rubbermaid Gott and it holds a bit more. Some people swear by them as mash vessels. Its shorter too, meaning easier to see into, less overall height.

Decisions, decisions.

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Old 12-14-2006, 03:19 AM   #26
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Is there any reason my hot water tank has to be a keg ? It only has to go to 170Fish , so couldn't I mount a 4.5KW element in it and use an igloo cube ? All it does is hold water. As a bonus, they are insulated, so they don't heat the place up as much and they don't lose heat.

I have 2 kegs, but I want to save one for a fermentor.

I actually have 3 more kegs, but I cut the tops off of them below the handles and I don't want that any more. That cuts them down to about 14 gallons. I want the handles on and I like that the top of the keg rolls over.

Here is one of them: http://www.pbase.com/me2001/image/71646833

Now that I look at it again, I might keep it for a brew kettle. I wish it was larger ! It would be very easy to boil over with 12+ gallons of wort in it. Or am I wrong ? How much extra space does one need when boiling ? I have a steel lid that fits it nicely. Don't you love it when the kettle boils over and puts out the flame ?

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This guy used a cooler for a hot water tanks. Don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:24 AM   #28
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It appears that a 10 gallon Gott is good for about 14 pounds of grain. Which is 30 pnts x 24 / 12 gallons = 1.060. Max. It would be nice to have a little more capacity than that.
I can fit 14 lbs into my 5 gallon cooler. I just brewed up 13.5 lbs yesterday. You should be able to get about 25 lbs or so into a 10 gallon easy.
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Latest iteration using 2 48 quart Igloo cubes and a small cooler for the heater vessel.

The cubes are 17inches on a side. They hold 12 gallons versus 10.5 gallons for the Gott. They are 1/3 the price of a Gott too, maybe less.

With the cubes, the top of the mash vessel is about 48", more or less negating the need for a step.

I should have dropped the brewing kettle down further so that the mash vessel can fill it entirely by gravity.

I can't believe that such a small layout could do 10 or 12 gallon brews ! That is exciting for me because I've got friends that want to brew with me.

Oh, and I don't throw my spent grains in the garbage. They get composted.

Here is another brewery that uses the mini heat exchanger.
http://www.texanbrew.com/index.php?topic=me
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:38 PM   #30
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[QUOTE=brewman !]What is PBW ?

PWB is Powdered Brewery Wash is has worked very well for my RIMS system. I just heat the water to 150°F/65°C and circulate through the system while I clean other brewday necessities. I then rinse by circulating a few gallons of clean water that was left over from chilling the wort and then hook up the shop-vac and let it go to work. There are tons of different cleaners I've just used this one and like it. I know one guy who uses a grocery store brand of OxyClean Free. I look at the ingredients on the store brand and it is sodium percarbonate and sodium carbonate. I'll defer to a metallurgist to discuss if hydrogen peroxide is safe for stainless, brass, and copper. I'm way late to work but your plans sound very solid. Have fun with it.
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