Advertise Here
Main · BrewSpace · Recipes · Wiki · Groups · Clubs · Gallery · Reviews · Video · Blogs · Store

Memorial Day False Bottom Free ShippingALL NEW Rebel Mill Grain Crusher now Available at Rebel Br5% off Coupon - KegCowboy.Com
Go Back   Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Equipment/Sanitation



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-17-2008, 03:55 AM   #1
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern NJ, USA
Posts: 254
Default Copper vs. PVC

Just took a grinder to a keg for a keggle, just got 50 ft of 3/8 OD soft copper for a counterflow......Just did a lot of things to get all the AG setup up and running.
Here is the dilemma:
I've seen on youtube how some people have made mash tuns out of a square coolers and PVC pipe for the manifold on the bottom, with slits that let the runnings seep out- just like were all used to seeing with copper. Whats the pro/cons here? If PVC is just as good- we would all be saving plenty by not using copper. I spoke with a local brewpub brewer who said that he had just always used copper for such things, and that PVC might not lend to good effects on flavor with such heat. Who knows about this type of thing?
Personally, seeing how effective and CLEAR my runnings are from my 5 gal. mash tun, I might use a SS braid again- and just use the braid for the length and width, and use copper or perhaps PVC for the elbow pieces.


oguss0311 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 04:05 AM   #2
Sea
Green Flash IPA on tap
 
Sea's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,500
Default

There are pros and cons to all materials. I personally would use copper because it's sturdier, and I know it won't contribute to my brew. If you do use PVC, get CPVC, which is designed for interior domestic water plumbing, and thus rated to something like 180 deg F.
__________________
I plan on living forever. So far, so good! - unknown.


Corrupt Brewers
Sea is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 04:09 AM   #3
10th-Level Beer Nerd
 
the_bird's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Adams, MA
Posts: 18,882
Blog Entries: 12
Default

I've been just using the braid with a 9-gallon rectangular cooler, and it works great. No need that I can see to make things more complicated (braid's a nonstarter if you're going to fly sparge, though - that's really the only time you NEED to have a manifold).

As was noted, using C-PVC is critical if you go that route, regular PVC won't stand up to that heat without leeching.
__________________
Come join Yankee Ingenuity!

"I'm kind of toasted. But I looked at my watch and it's only 6:30 so I can't stop drinking yet." - Yooper's Bob
the_bird is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 11:52 AM   #4
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: My House
Posts: 522
Default

Definitely don't use regular PVC. Get CPVC. It is rated for 100PSI at 180 Degrees F. That is a plumbin rating so they know when the pipe will burst or sag too much. It can stand higher temps I believe, as long as there isn't 100 PSI of pressure in it.
bigben is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 02:34 PM   #5
Stammtisch Brewery
 
Sherpa FE's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
Posts: 727
Default

I looked up just the temp specs and the numbers I found were 200 degrees for the CPVC. At that temp though, is that when the pipe starts becoming unstable, or starts giving "off flavors"?
__________________
No matter how much money you THINK you are saving by brewing beer, you are still just pissing money away
Sherpa FE is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 02:41 PM   #6
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: My House
Posts: 522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherpa FE
I looked up just the temp specs and the numbers I found were 200 degrees for the CPVC. At that temp though, is that when the pipe starts becoming unstable, or starts giving "off flavors"?
Yea, that's what Im not sure about.

Im pretty sure all those ratings are for stability. So it is rated to support a certain pressure at a certain temp. But there aren't any "It will start leeching at this temp" ratings that I know of for PVC or CPVC.
bigben is offline Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 02:49 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
abracadabra's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Posts: 1,924
Default

Lead in used in the manufactoring of PVC and it will leach some of that lead at high temps that's the main reason to use CPVC.


__________________
Do what you like!
Brew what you like!
abracadabra is offline Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Copper Still imanseau Equipment/Sanitation 34 07-17-2009 06:11 PM
50 ft of copper, what to do? jjp36 DIY Projects 31 01-29-2009 06:26 PM
Old Copper NWPAbrewer DIY Projects 6 08-04-2008 08:25 PM
My Copper Ale Cregar General Beer Discussion 5 07-21-2007 05:39 PM
New copper jerly Equipment/Sanitation 4 06-29-2007 09:15 PM





Contact Us - Top - Privacy - All times are GMT. The time now is 02:03 AM.
Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved
Craft Beer & Brewery Forum