Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Equipment/Sanitation > Cooler mash tun manifold... necessary?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-16-2012, 05:50 PM   #1
Seamonkey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 3
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default Cooler mash tun manifold... necessary?

Hey there, I'm quite green to homebrewing but looking to change all that before I kick off this planet!

I'm going to be making a mash tun out of a cooler this weekend and I'm wondering, is a manifold really necessary at the bottom?
With these new coolers that have a recessed area at the drain plug to ensure maximum draining, can't I simply use a few layers of stainless steel screen secured over the brass piece on the inside of the cooler? Just seems much simpler and easier to clean.

Thoughts?

THANK YOU!

__________________
Seamonkey is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 06:50 PM   #2
JayMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Guelph, Ontario
Posts: 252
Liked 10 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamonkey View Post
Hey there, I'm quite green to homebrewing but looking to change all that before I kick off this planet!

I'm going to be making a mash tun out of a cooler this weekend and I'm wondering, is a manifold really necessary at the bottom?
With these new coolers that have a recessed area at the drain plug to ensure maximum draining, can't I simply use a few layers of stainless steel screen secured over the brass piece on the inside of the cooler? Just seems much simpler and easier to clean.

Thoughts?

THANK YOU!
Manifolds are definitely not necessary, but if you build the right one, it can be nice. Personally I made one myself for my round cooler, and I like it because I can either batch sparge or fly sparge depending on time restraints.

Instead of just putting the screen over the brass nipple, I would suggest just buying a washing machine stainless steel braided hose (you can find this at any hardware store with a plumbing section). See FlyGuy's 10 gallon MLT conversion thread (use the search bar at the top left of the forum window). He shows you exactly how to do the conversion and there's a healthy ongoing discussion on there. There are other MLT conversion threads on here so just give a look in the DIY section.

However, if you ever wish to move to fly or continuous sparging, you WILL need a manifold. A lot of very experienced homebrewers still batch sparge and say they will NEVER go to fly sparging due to the (debatably) unnecessary effort and time for what they believe to be very little gain. The manifold is necessary when fly sparging because slow drainage causes channeling to occur in areas where the water has a shorter path to travel. This leaves parts of the grainbed to be less rinsed than others, reducing efficiency. On the other hand, since you drain so quickly with a batch sparge, channeling is not a problem.

Take a look around and do a little research, it really depends on how much time and effort you'd like to invest.

Cheers!
__________________
JayMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 06:59 PM   #3
Malticulous
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. George Utah
Posts: 4,056
Liked 53 Times on 44 Posts
Likes Given: 62

Default

A braid is not a manifold and can work fine. Mine has neither a braid nor a manifold.

__________________

I think I'll have another pint of this highly flawed beer because it's so damned good.

Malticulous is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 07:20 PM   #4
JayMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Guelph, Ontario
Posts: 252
Liked 10 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malticulous View Post
A braid is not a manifold and can work fine. Mine has neither a braid nor a manifold.
who said a braid was a manifold?
__________________
JayMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 07:31 PM   #5
AnOldUR
fer-men-TAY-shuhn
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
AnOldUR's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,093
Liked 548 Times on 399 Posts
Likes Given: 420

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malticulous View Post
Mine has neither a braid nor a manifold.
OK. I'll bite. What'd you got going on there? Some kind of tubing? Holes drilled in it?
__________________
Sent from my POS computer because I refuse to own a smartphone!
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbaysurfer View Post
That's the nature of being competitive. You find yourself wanting validation from more objective sources then your own ego.
AnOldUR is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 07:33 PM   #6
tre9er
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 4,372
Liked 232 Times on 196 Posts
Likes Given: 35

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnOldUR View Post
OK. I'll bite. What'd you got going on there? Some kind of tubing? Holes drilled in it?
Looks like it. A single-tube manifold? I wonder if it get's stuck sparges much due to such a concentrated drainage area?
__________________

_________________________________
Skal!
Den Faaborg Bryggeri

Quote:
Originally Posted by davekippen View Post
Open log Fermenting and gas-can secondary?? I am planning my next brew right now!!
tre9er is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-16-2012, 08:20 PM   #7
Malticulous
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. George Utah
Posts: 4,056
Liked 53 Times on 44 Posts
Likes Given: 62

Default

Here it is with the porter that is about done boiling right now. I turned it upside down so you can see the holes. No stuck sparges really but if I let it drain wide open the bed can compact (probably has more to do with the .030 crush than the launter device.) Half open and I works great even with 60% wheat. I never have used rice hulls.

p1040157.jpg  
__________________

I think I'll have another pint of this highly flawed beer because it's so damned good.

Malticulous is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coleman Wheeled Xtreme 5 Cooler Mash Tun (with CPVC manifold) worstbrewing Equipment/Sanitation 7 07-23-2012 05:23 PM
Square cooler mash tun: braid or manifold ericw Equipment/Sanitation 4 06-14-2010 04:45 PM
Cooler MLT Manifold tomy2 Equipment/Sanitation 9 01-18-2010 01:55 PM
New Cooler Mash Tun - Braid or Manifold? EdWort Equipment/Sanitation 24 12-03-2007 10:01 PM
manifold for cooler ChrisS Equipment/Sanitation 11 08-23-2007 08:10 AM