Charlie Talley (Five-Star Chemicals) Notes from Brewcasts - Page 3

**WortMonger** · 05-28-2008, 05:26 PM

I store it in a stainless keg if I have one free. The "no longer than 3-4 hours rule" is for copper and aluminum. You can save it in glass or stainless until you need it.

jp1316 · 07-16-2008, 04:03 PM

I'm not sure if this was answered already, but would it be ok to keep it in a plastic bucket(primary that came with my kit) with a lid?

**Revvy** · 07-16-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jp1316

I'm not sure if this was answered already, but would it be ok to keep it in a plastic bucket(primary that came with my kit) with a lid?

Lot of people do...or leave it in carboys.

paul_h · 07-16-2008, 04:43 PM

But there's no point keeping it when mixed with tap water, the minerals and chlorine will rise the pH and it will be useless. If you plan to store, you need to only mix with demineralised or RO water.
I keep a plastic trigger pack on hand with a starsan/demineralised mix to spray everything I come in contact with on brew and bottling days. I also take it to work and spray any air conditioners that have built up odours due to bacteria breeding in evaporators.

**Revvy** · 07-16-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by paul_h

But there's no point keeping it when mixed with tap water, the minerals and chlorine will rise the pH and it will be useless. If you plan to store, you need to only mix with demineralised or RO water.
I keep a plastic trigger pack on hand with a starsan/demineralised mix to spray everything I come in contact with on brew and bottling days. I also take it to work and spray any air conditioners that have built up odours due to bacteria breeding in evaporators.

+1 on this...use distilled, or preboiled water, and it will last a long time.

**Beerrific** · 07-16-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by paul_h

But there's no point keeping it when mixed with tap water, the minerals and chlorine will rise the pH and it will be useless. If you plan to store, you need to only mix with demineralised or RO water.

This is not necessarily true. It depends on your water. I used to always mix this with DI water, ran out, then started using carbon filtered tap water. I have mixed some and after 3 weeks the pH was still below 3.5.

jp1316 · 07-16-2008, 10:52 PM

So the ph is the best way to determine if its still good?

**FlyGuy** · 07-18-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jp1316

So the ph is the best way to determine if its still good?

Yes -- the pH must be below 3.5 and it must be clear (not cloudy). Some people debate the second criterion, but Charlie Talley emphasizes it.

brett · 07-18-2008, 12:56 AM

I usually just use 2 gallons of starsan, and I mix it with distilled water, then store it in the same plastic jugs that the water came in. You really don't need a whole bunch of it, and I'm certainly going to start using the spray bottle trick.

Best sanitizer on the market IMO.

**craprocker** · 07-18-2008, 02:35 AM

The directions on the PBW say 1-2 oz per gallon. So is 1 oz per 5 galls good enough?

05-28-2008, 05:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
WortMonger United States Mashtronaut Recipes Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ada, OK Posts: 1,809 WortMonger's Gallery	I store it in a stainless keg if I have one free. The "no longer than 3-4 hours rule" is for copper and aluminum. You can save it in glass or stainless until you need it. __________________ *"Beer... Nutritious and Delicious!"* Wanna know about Completely Closed-System Pressurized Fermentation in a Sanke Keg?

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brett Senior Member Recipes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 287	I usually just use 2 gallons of starsan, and I mix it with distilled water, then store it in the same plastic jugs that the water came in. You really don't need a whole bunch of it, and I'm certainly going to start using the spray bottle trick. Best sanitizer on the market IMO. __________________ Primary 1: House Ale (yay!) Primary 2: empty Primary 3: empty Primary 4: empty Bottle Conditioning: Apfelwein Bottle Conditioning: Apfelwein + Blueberry Kegged/Drinking: Partigyle Brown Ale Conditioning: New House Barley Wine Conditioning: Ghetto canned kit bitter (Surprisingly getting better w/ age) Just Finished: Edwort's Apfelwein Up next: More House Ale ?!?

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07-16-2008, 04:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
jp1316 Member Recipes Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: new orleans, la Posts: 34	I'm not sure if this was answered already, but would it be ok to keep it in a plastic bucket(primary that came with my kit) with a lid?

07-16-2008, 04:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
paul_h Senior Member Recipes Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Western Australia Posts: 116	But there's no point keeping it when mixed with tap water, the minerals and chlorine will rise the pH and it will be useless. If you plan to store, you need to only mix with demineralised or RO water. I keep a plastic trigger pack on hand with a starsan/demineralised mix to spray everything I come in contact with on brew and bottling days. I also take it to work and spray any air conditioners that have built up odours due to bacteria breeding in evaporators.

07-18-2008, 02:35 AM	#30 (permalink)
craprocker Craprocker Recipes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay View, Milwaukee, WI Posts: 60 craprocker's Gallery	The directions on the PBW say 1-2 oz per gallon. So is 1 oz per 5 galls good enough?