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Old 03-12-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Recently acquired some kegs that I'm in the process of converting. Tops are cut off, but thats about it.

I'm trying to decide to which would be the better/easier way to go with these.

I'll be brewing mainly 5gal batches with the occasional 10gal, but I don't see myself going any larger than that. It seems like alot of people use either style of chiller, but I seem to see alot more of the Immersion style. Is this mainly for ease of use? (being that they just drop right in)

I also plan on possibly still doing 5gal batches with a regular 4gal stock pot for when buddies are over brewing, so this makes me think a CFC may not be the best way to go unless I were to convert my SS kettle as well (which I would rather not do), but on that same note, would a big IC even fit into a standard stock pot?

If I did go with a regular IC, should I look into the 50ft, 1/2" versions, or will 3/8" be large enough?

Any help on this would be great.

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:35 PM   #2
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I have the shirron plate chiller.. wouldnt leave home without it..

its the best thing since the autosiphon to come my way..

if you want "easy to clean and use" get an IC.. but if you want speed and efficiency, CFC or plate chiller is your way..

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Neither the CFC or plate chiller would work with a regular stockpot though would they?

Then again, I guess I could just completely ditch the stockpot idea, let buddies use ice baths and could just figure out what would work best with the keggle.

How big of a CFC would I need to chill to 5-10gal boils? I saw one that AHS sells and its 28' http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produc...ducts_id=10458 I guess this would still be cheaper than a 50' 1/2 IC.

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Old 03-12-2008, 11:18 PM   #4
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Neither the CFC or plate chiller would work with a regular stockpot though would they?
You really need a pump for a CFC or a plate chiller ( although I admit that I could be wrong on this because I have neither). An IC would be the lowest initial investment.

I use an IC and I'm typically at pitching temps in about 12-15 minutes in the summer. In the winter it's about 5 minutes.
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If that's the case with the pump, then i'll probably just go with the IC. Not really looking to upgrade to that point yet.

I'm guessing with the keggle, you could just use the IC to chill it, and then either siphon the wort out, or just open the spigot correct(if there isn't to much material in the keggle)?

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as long as you have a spigot on your kettle, and some gravity, a plate chiller will work..

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as long as you have a spigot on your kettle, and some gravity, a plate chiller will work..
is this the one you have: http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produc...8d11ad6db333f4

if so, is it recommended to have the accessories?

my kettle will have a spigot, but as far as gravity goes, the kettle won't be very high as i don't have any sort of sculpture or anything tall to put the keggle on. it'll probably just be on the burner (so, a foot or so off the ground). is that sufficient? this chiller is pretty much the same price as the CFC and IC i've been looking into.
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thats the one..

i didnt get any acc. there accept the quick connect fittings.... you can get what you need from homedepot for half the price..

i needed about 4 feet or so.. do a search for the wort wizzard too..

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You don't need a pump for a CFC, I just use gravity. I also don't have a spigot on my kettle so I use a copper tube as a syphon.

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To answer your original question; you can't go wrong either way, but I would concentrate on chilling the keggle, not the stock pots.

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I don't ike CFC's since the cold break ends up in the carboy.

An IC with a method of swirling the wort around while cooling works well. I have yet to make a swirling device yet.

If I get a pump I will take my IC and put it in a bucket of ice water, pump beer from the outlet on the keggle through it and back in to the keggle, with the tip (submerged) pointed as to create a slight swirling action in the kettle.

ALternatively with a pump you could use a cfc and run the beer back into the kettle as above instead of the carboy.

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