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Old 01-30-2013, 01:59 AM   #1
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Have been brewing extract five gallon batches for a couple years now. Electric stove and even induction burner just seem to take so long to get to a boil. Am thinking of upgrading a couple components with my tax refund. Have looked at the Blichmann floor burner and the bayou burner. Is the Blichmann worth the extra $70?
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Was thinking I could add the legs and then add a valve to my brew kettle and transfer the wort without moving anything. this is the second item I am looking for advice on at this point. Have what I believe is a 4 gallon stainless steel kettle. Would one of these valves work and is there any type in particular I should get. Not sure what the differences are between them. http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brewing/brewing-equipment/pumps-and-plumbing/weldless-valve-kits

Do I need to add a false bottom or screen to filter the gunk?

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Old 01-30-2013, 02:55 AM   #2
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the extra money probably goes for the stainless steel. rusty burners work as well as stainless steel burners so it's up to your tastes. i own 3 blichmann burners and i love them. when buying ball valves i would stick with stainless steel.



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the extra money probably goes for the stainless steel. rusty burners work as well as stainless steel burners so it's up to your tastes. i own 3 blichmann burners and i love them. when buying ball valves i would stick with stainless steel.
For me, I think the option to add the legs to raise the unit up will be the deciding item. For the valve setup, what should I use to strain out the gunk in the wort? I looked at the mash/boil screen, http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brewing/brewing-equipment/stirring-straining/mash-boil-screen.html but that is 13" long and my kettle is 11".
Would using a false bottom be effective for straining purposes? I see that there are 9" and 10" options for those. Alternatively I could have the drain line off the valve feed into the funnel with screen going into the fermentation bottle.
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I just got my blichmann after using a banjo and I love it. About to buy a second one. First, it is whisper quiet, so no more shouting to my friends during the boil. Its got a much bigger surface area for the burners, and its very, very efficient with propane, I get at least 1-2 more boils out of a tank now (you can modify how much oxygen you let in to adjust for the most efficient flame, which I dont have on my banjo).

I have one of their pots and its great, but not sure I'd splurge like that again, but i will on their burners. Plus the fact that they are so upgradable. I can add the legs, or add it to the tier system in the future when I want to.

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Got a Blichmann a couple batches ago, plus the kit that allows you to hook it up my house's gas supply (previous occupants ran a line out to the deck for a gas grill... at that point, I don't know why they just didn't cook on the stove, but that's another thread). I love it, but, then, I jumped straight there from stove-top, so, I can't really comment on how it compares to the banjo burner.

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those bazooka screens are popular, i've never used it but it seems to work for most people in the mash. as far as the boil kettle screen it depends on what kettle you are using, it took me a few tries to find a system that worked for me.

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with valves its all a matter of preference. I use SS on my kettle and prefer it, but still have a bronze one on my igloo cooler. SS will last forever, my bronze one is starting to look past its prime.

I jsut got a bazooka screen but haven't used it yet, from my research it seems to work fine as long as you're batch sparging, if you fly sparge it channels the wort too much and kills your efficiency.

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I decided to go with a Blichmann for a couple different reasons. First off, it is a much more efficient burner overall and will eventually start saving me a few bucks on propane. The second reason for me is that keggles fit on it much better and that is what I use for my boil kettle. Keggles don't see to sit well on top of banjo burners because the stand is not very conducive to the rounded bottom on a keg.

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I decided to go with a Blichmann for a couple different reasons. First off, it is a much more efficient burner overall and will eventually start saving me a few bucks on propane. The second reason for me is that keggles fit on it much better and that is what I use for my boil kettle. Keggles don't see to sit well on top of banjo burners because the stand is not very conducive to the rounded bottom on a keg.
I agree. However one thing Ive noticed is the retaining bars when installed were not level, causing my pot to rock back and forth a bit. I had to remove them. That is the one criticism I had. Not a problem for me now, but if I get a tier system and move everything higher up, I'm going to want those bars in place.
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For the Bazooka screen, are they rigid or is there some flex in the item? My kettle is only 11" in diameter so I would need to curve up the last couple inches if possible. Note that I am not doing an all grain setup. I do a 5 gallon extract batch, so during the boil I have 2 gallons plus the ingredients.

Just trying to figure out a better way than dumping the wort into the funnel with a screen which can take quite a while and is a pain. Would love to get a setup where once it is cooled down I can just turn the handle and have it drain into the fermenter.



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