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strat_thru_marshall 12-12-2010 01:47 AM

Brewhemoth conicals?
 
Anybody using these:

www.brewhemoth.com

I searched the forums but didnt find anything... looks like it might be interesting? $429 for a conical with a 1/2 bbl batch capacity...

http://brewhemoth.com/sites/default/...003%20copy.jpg

msabin 12-12-2010 04:08 AM

I'd never seen them before, but I'd love to have one (or two)
Have to get a bigger pot...!

shamrockdoc 12-12-2010 04:15 AM

This is awesome! I must have one!

stlbeer 12-12-2010 04:22 AM

I've seen these. The folks making them do top notch work. They just put together an internal chiller for these. One was just awarded to the Best of Show winner in the St Louis Brews Happy Holidays Homebrew Competition.

shamrockdoc 12-12-2010 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stlbeer (Post 2470708)
I've seen these. The folks making them do top notch work. They just put together an internal chiller for these. One was just awarded to the Best of Show winner in the St Louis Brews Happy Holidays Homebrew Competition.

Great I gotta one before they raise the prices double.

zymurgy101 12-12-2010 12:51 PM

Looks like free shipping on all their products...nice.

The 16 gallon Penrose brew kettle looks decent for $139 as well.

Kally 12-12-2010 05:33 PM

I have a customized version of this with tri-clamps. It's great! I have pictures of it and the clean-in-place system I built for it here:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...1&l=1b2d177104

RonRock 12-12-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kally (Post 2471480)
I have a customized version of this with tri-clamps. It's great! I have pictures of it and the clean-in-place system I built for it here:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...1&l=1b2d177104

Very nice setup. Did you have them weld in the Tri fittings? I took a look at their site and really like their stuff.

What kind of seal is in the top of the Conical? Can it be pressurized? Looks like one piece so I'd guess it can. Not sure of the seal.

shamrockdoc 12-12-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kally (Post 2471480)
I have a customized version of this with tri-clamps. It's great! I have pictures of it and the clean-in-place system I built for it here:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...1&l=1b2d177104

This is so sexual please PM me as much of the parts list you can so I can build all these devices. You are my hero of Sunday!

Kally 12-12-2010 06:36 PM

haha, thanks for the compliment.

I need to put a parts list together for it. I have a mix of parts from Ebay and McMaster-Carr. I have photos and documentation for the whole thing, so it's just a matter of getting it published. Some of the tri-clamp fittings and valves can get very expensive. I was fortunate to find some good deals on ebay and I was able to buy a bunch of the old Route 66 brewery's fittings after they closed.

The top lid clamps down and seals well. I think it is a Buna-N type seal, although it might be something fancier as these are built from liquid oxygen tanks - so the stainless was able to handle tremendous amounts of pressure. Dale has a racking demonstration video on the Brewhemoth site. He puts the conical under 5-10psi of pressure for easy racking to a keg. I have fittings to connect the racking outlet port to the corny liquid out post, so I keep the entire system closed and under CO2. I put the corny on a scale and fill it by weight.

A few lessons I learned:
1 - I used a 1/2" racking tri-clamp fitting. I would go to a 3/4" tri-clamp instead, assuming it fits in the weld-space. I haven't verified the fit with the manufacturer, but I believe it would fit better than the 1/2". A 1/2" tri-clamp actually has a 3/8" inside diameter and the 3/4" is close to 1/2". Most of my brew hoses are 1/2" ID Santoprene.

2 - There is an open hole for the airlock at the top next to the main lid. This is also used as the CO2 inlet port. A drilled stopper works well with a tube going through it. I have been debating on having a 1" tri-clamp welded to this so that I can have more options with the setup. I would like to have a corny CO2 input fitting there. This can be achieved with a 1" tri-clamp to 1/4" threaded fitting and attaching a post to that.

3 - Planning the infrastructure to use a conical effectively cannot be emphasized enough. I don't have casters on mine, so there's no way to move a conical filled with 10 gallons of wort. It has to be filled in location and kept there until you're ready to rack. I had some interesting challenges keeping things cool enough in my garage over the summer. I have a fridge for this now. One great thing about the Brewhemoth vs other conicals is that it's tall and narrow - you can fit it in the fridge side of many side by side fridges (which are cheap now that the french door style fridges are the rage). I am building a temperature control chamber out of this fridge with a heater to allow this to work in the winter.
I recommend diagramming each operation before you have wort on the line so you know you have the right parts.

Since this has been setup, it's been great. I love the clean-in-place system. I just set it up and the whole thing cleans, rinses, and sanitizes itself. No scrubbing required. Although you can clean this easily with your hands if you prefer to keep it simple.
If you want the tri-clamp version, you have to tell them from the beginning. It has to be custom manufactured that way, there isn't a way to retrofit the system. Dale and Josh are very friendly and easy to work with. They will brew over backwards to help you out.


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