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Old 03-16-2010, 06:56 PM   #701
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If the elements submergered there shouldn't be a element overheating problem, my thinking a liquid level would be more important than the elements temperture. Just my way of thinking to keep it energerized until the level gets too low then shuts down before the element gets exposed and too hot first.

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Old 03-17-2010, 05:55 PM   #702
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Why do you feel that this is a better solution, and do you have a link to something that would work for this situation?
Because most of the heated tanks we have use over-temp protection instead of float switches. We have several tanks with float switches (for other reasons) and floats get stuck. Over-temp can fail too but it seems less likely.

It's basically just a temp controller with a thermocouple on the element but you (usually) have to manually reset it. Can be used for temp control or over-temp protection. Element gets too hot, temp controller shuts it off. Once the element cools down enough, press the reset button and you're ready to go again.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:01 PM   #703
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What does something like that cost?
We're looking to protect a $10-$20 element - the float switch seems like cheap insurance.

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Old 03-17-2010, 10:58 PM   #704
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As I already replied in posting 697, this unit;

http://www.gemssensors.com/content.aspx?id=5432

For $65 no mechanical parts to stick or jam.

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Old 03-18-2010, 01:07 AM   #705
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As I already replied in posting 697, this unit
I thought that that was another version of a level indicator, not an overtemp sensor...
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:08 AM   #706
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I thought that that was another version of a level indicator, not an overtemp sensor...
That's correct, if it's above the element you will have element protection from running dry burning up. Temp control by your temp probe in the dry well. It would take two units to fail plus you having a boiling pot with a lot of steam that might get your attention that somethings wrong. If your using a ULWD element it's not that hot at 50 watt/ sq in anyway.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:16 PM   #707
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I have just about all my stuff in to get my whole box wired up, pretty much the same as in the OP.

Just to check something though, the OP has 3 different gauges wire in the parts list, wouldn't it be easier to just go with 10 ga. on everything? (except between the PID and SSR)

Why change between 10, 12 and 14 ga.? Can't be the cost..
If you would use them all, where use the 12 and 14?

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Old 03-18-2010, 10:25 PM   #708
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I just got done doing part of my wiring, 10 ga is somewhat difficult to deal with. The smaller ga wire will be easier in positioning and installing, plus 10 ga is just overkill. When you start getting everything in, you'll understand.

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Old 03-19-2010, 01:08 AM   #709
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After you wire a few boxes, you realize how nice it is to only use the ga. wire you NEED... there is a big difference between 10 ga and 12 ga... and it is nice to use 22 ga where you can, you can run spools of that stuff and it takes up NO room.

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No problems with going to a smaller gauge wire, just make sure it is fused correctly.

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