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Old 02-27-2013, 03:38 PM   #21
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I use this stuff, works awesome. I just put a gallon of warm water in a shake it . Everything comes right out
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:23 PM   #22
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TIP: if you do a full Oxiclean soak, instead of just pouring out that 6 gallons of oxiclean...USE IT TO DO A LOAD OF LAUNDRY! I just pour it in my clothes washer, turn it on the hot wash cycle so my water is at least warm when mixed with the 6 gallons of oxiclean. Waste not!
I can't imagine what my wife would say if I dumped trub gunk in with the wash!
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:26 PM   #23
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I use this stuff, works awesome. I just put a gallon of warm water in a shake it . Everything comes right out
Not to hijack, but I've done some searching on this product and can't get a clear answer. What exactly is this stuff?
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:45 PM   #24
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I can't imagine what my wife would say if I dumped trub gunk in with the wash!
If you rinse out the better bottle before you do the Oxiclean soak it will only be minimul trub into your wash. I wash my own clothes.
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Not to hijack, but I've done some searching on this product and can't get a clear answer. What exactly is this stuff?
From the description it sounds pbw or oxy like. Doing the math this stuff is about 44 cents per oz, pbw is about 50 cents per oz (both are online prices that don't include shipping). Oxyclean free is about 17 cents per oz, easy to find at Walmart, grocery stores, etc, works just as well as pbw in my experience, and the rate of use is the same, about an oz per gallon. This is why I switched to oxyclean.
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From the description it sounds pbw or oxy like. Doing the math this stuff is about 44 cents per oz, pbw is about 50 cents per oz (both are online prices that don't include shipping). Oxyclean free is about 17 cents per oz, easy to find at Walmart, grocery stores, etc, works just as well as pbw in my experience, and the rate of use is the same, about an oz per gallon. This is why I switched to oxyclean.
Actually, the fact it says "alkaline" would mean it's closer to lye or potash unless they're completely lying about what it is.

They also list BrewVint Cleanitizer, which clearly states it's a oxygen based cleaner. That would be your Oxiclean/PBW knockoff.

I doubt that they'd have two different oxygen cleaners with different names.
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Actually, the fact it says "alkaline" would mean it's closer to lye or potash unless they're completely lying about what it is.

They also list BrewVint Cleanitizer, which clearly states it's a oxygen based cleaner. That would be your Oxiclean/PBW knockoff.

I doubt that they'd have two different oxygen cleaners with different names.
Also to consider if it cleans and sanitizes in one step. I'm not a chemist I just look at what is the least cost, quickest, most efficient way to get my brew stuff clean and so far that's definitely oxyclean.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:46 PM   #28
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+1 on oxy.. i only ever use half a scoop but fill it up to the tippy top.. sometimes accidentally leaving it full for a couple days (that reminds me, i may still have one full in my laundry tub) and never had a problem.. i have 5 six gallon BBs and the most i ever have to do is put a rag in and swirl around a bit.. i used rice a couple times as well for a stubborn stain from a 5 month RIS ferment..

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Old 02-28-2013, 02:32 PM   #29
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I started with Better Bottles and have now moved to glass. I had two BBs develop hairline cracks in the bottom after only a few uses.

I contacted the manufacturer and was told that caustic cleaning agents like PBW can do this if exposed for more than a few minutes. Careful what recommendations you take from this forum as I see someone above recommended an overnight PBW soak.
PBW contains a large percentage of sodium carbonate (washing soda) which makes it highly alkaline. The sodium percarbonate (the oxygen releasing component) will release oxygen and also "reduce" to sodium carbonate in that process.

Another main ingredient in PBW is sodium meta-silicate, a trisodium phosphate (TSP) substitute. Phosphates are on the s**t list.

These 3 main ingredients are highly alkaline, giving PBW its cleaning power and a high pH (around 12).
I would not call this "caustic." e.g., there is NO sodium hydroxide in it.

Without seeing it, the hairline cracking you experience may be what is commonly known as "crazing" in plastics. Certain (organic) solvents are known to cause crazing in plastics. The cause of crazing here may be a combination of high alkalinity and high temperatures, or other physical/chemical "stress" related effects.

As we all have experienced at some point in time, manufacturers are usually not very forthcoming when asking the pesky details of their products or solutions when problems arise, and the method often used to try to get rid of the pests is brush-off or swat.

I've never used Better Bottles or similar plastics in brewing, in fear of scratching them over time, and long-term product stability. Issues like this make me want to stay away from them even more.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:48 PM   #30
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Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've been overnight soaking my Better Bottles in hot PBW solution since I bought them 8 years ago, and they all still look as new as the day I received them.

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