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10-08-2009, 01:17 AM
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best way to cool my 10 gallons
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I've read a reread all the wort chiller threads I could find and now my head hurts. Like everyone else I want to cool my beer as quickly as possible but do not know if I should IC, cfc or plate...
Here is my situation:
70 degree tap water
I currently have a 25 foot immersion chiller that could be used as a pre chiller.
Is there any reason that I should not be able to cool my beer in15 minutes if I purchase a 50 foot immersion chiller?
Should I go the march(sp?) and cfc or plate route? I cannot gravity feed a cfc.
I want to do this right the first time, so I would rather buy the right equipment now and be happy, rather than buy something cheap and have to eventually upgrade to the proper equipment... 
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10-08-2009, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoebag22
I've read a reread all the wort chiller threads I could find and now my head hurts. Like everyone else I want to cool my beer as quickly as possible but do not know if I should IC, cfc or plate...
Here is my situation:
70 degree tap water
I currently have a 25 foot immersion chiller that could be used as a pre chiller.
Is there any reason that I should not be able to cool my beer in15 minutes if I purchase a 50 foot immersion chiller?
Should I go the march(sp?) and cfc or plate route? I cannot gravity feed a cfc.
I want to do this right the first time, so I would rather buy the right equipment now and be happy, rather than buy something cheap and have to eventually upgrade to the proper equipment... 
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I use a plate chiller but am very careful about pellet hops and use a hop filter bag. I am as confused as you are. Everybody does it a bit differently. Lots of guys swear by the recirculating method using an imersion chiller while agitating the wort. I know it's tuff but you have to decide what works best for you and your budget.
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10-08-2009, 12:32 PM
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Since you already have an IC, you could next try the whirpooling. This requires a march pump (there's a group buy currently being organized in another thread) and another piece of copper to recirculate the wort/create the whirpool. Done right, this should give a significant boost to your cooling times.
But, if still not satisfied, you could still later decide to try a CFC or plate chiller. I decided against either of them because of some of the stories I read about clogging/difficulty in cleaning (and I know I hate to spend lots of time cleaning). Or, you could then bump up to a 50' chiller and continue to whirlpool.
In any case, you'll likely be happy that you have the pump since you'll likely put it to use for other purposes as well.
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10-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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I use a 50' IC that I built . I live in Texas and I have no problem bringing the wort down to about 80. Sometimes I use a prechiller, but I hear that using a pond pump in an ice chest with ice water works well to bring it down to pitching temps. I just usually pitch at 80 and throw it in the fermenting chamber. In a few hours its down to 65.
I dont know about 15 minutes though. 30minutes for sure, but I usually agitate the IC a bit and that help alot, or you could stir.
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10-08-2009, 02:46 PM
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Does anyone have a diagram or picture of a cfc setup in action?
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10-08-2009, 04:53 PM
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I do tap water and them ice water/pond pump and it works well, having a pump and whirlpool would be much more efficient. I do notice a big jump if I agitate the IC and or kettle.
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10-08-2009, 04:56 PM
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I have a cfc and love it. I run right out of the keggle and into the cfc and into the carboy. I let it run through while i clean up. Hands free. I just run some boiling water through it after I'm done and I never have clogging problems
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10-08-2009, 06:05 PM
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I just did my first 10 gallon batch this past weekend in my new keggle. I used my 50', 1/2" IC, hooked up to the hose, (around 60 degree water). I didn't stir or agitate the wort, (too lazy). I hit 75 degrees in 15 minutes.
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10-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdbreen
Since you already have an IC, you could next try the whirpooling. This requires a march pump (there's a group buy currently being organized in another thread) and another piece of copper to recirculate the wort/create the whirpool. Done right, this should give a significant boost to your cooling times.
But, if still not satisfied, you could still later decide to try a CFC or plate chiller. I decided against either of them because of some of the stories I read about clogging/difficulty in cleaning (and I know I hate to spend lots of time cleaning). Or, you could then bump up to a 50' chiller and continue to whirlpool.
In any case, you'll likely be happy that you have the pump since you'll likely put it to use for other purposes as well.
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Don't believe all the stories you hear about plate chillers. There are ways you can keep your hop debris down to almost nil even with a heavy load of pellet hops.
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10-08-2009, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawdustguy
Don't believe all the stories you hear about plate chillers. There are ways you can keep your hop debris down to almost nil even with a heavy load of pellet hops.
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Would a paint strainer work?
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