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Old 10-23-2009, 03:20 PM   #1
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I'm trying to figure out the best natural gas burner/stand solution within reason. I don't want to spend $300 or anything like that. Suggestions? I've been using propane to this point, so I have no idea what is required to upgrade to natural gas. The Hurricane burner w/ stand is $100 at Midwest Supplies, but what else would I need? I have an outside natural gas connection begging to be used. Thanks.

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Old 10-23-2009, 05:00 PM   #2
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You need a modified valve or you would have to drill out the valve yourself for NG. It's a great burner and the stand is well made and strong. You will also need some hose & fittings most likely unless you already have them. You can pick up a 10-12 foot quick disconnect hose from Home Depot for about $40.

The valve http://www.hurricaneproducts.net/PHPCatalog+/?function=detail&id=19 here needs to be modified -ask them if they can sell you one direct as others have said that they are out of stock at several of the online companies. Or you could just start drilling the hole slightly larger in the supplied LP propane valve until you get the correct flame. IMO it is impossible to give you the correct orifice size as everyone's gas pressure is different at the point of use.



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Here is a natural gas burner for $25! I use the same kind of burner for propane and it works perfectly!

http://www.asianfoodservice.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SKFS&Product_C ode=KECABJ004&Category_Code=KECABJ

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So, is the only real way to make this happen by DIY-ing a Frankenstein type natural gas solution? I am hesitant to drill out a valve or something like that. I've never done anything like that before. Is there no simple solution or pre-made natural gas burner/stands available?

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There's not much of a market because 95% of people out there are terrified of natural gas. Just get the NG conversion valve specifically meant for the hurricane. http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/natural-gas-valve-for-hurricane-burner.html Oops, they are out of stock.

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE_CONVERSION_VALVE_P2214.cfm

The only difference between this and the propane connection is the size of the tiny hole that shoots gas into the burner.

You're going to find that the hose itself to the connect to the house is the most expensive part. I priced out a 1/2" x 20 foot flex hose with disconnect and it was $150. Screw that.

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I made a natural gas setup using off-the-shelf parts. It's 23-jet wok burner attached to the house with a 1/2" QD hose, controlled with a standard 1/2" gas ball valve. My burner is overkill for a five gallon setup but would be perfect for something larger.

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There's not much of a market because 95% of people out there are terrified of natural gas. Just get the NG conversion valve specifically meant for the hurricane. http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/natural-gas-valve-for-hurricane-burner.html Oops, they are out of stock.

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE_CONVERSION_VALVE_P2214.cfm

The only difference between this and the propane connection is the size of the tiny hole that shoots gas into the burner.

You're going to find that the hose itself to the connect to the house is the most expensive part. I priced out a 1/2" x 20 foot flex hose with disconnect and it was $150. Screw that.
Awesome Bobby, thanks. So if that hose was too expensive, what was your solution? I'm guessing that I would probably only need a 10' hose.
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I built my own assembly using Goodyear utility hose. I can't recommend it though for liability concerns. I lost my faith in the overpriced grill style hoses when I found the one for my grill chewed to swiss cheese by squirrels and leaking gas into the neighborhood.

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There's not much of a market because 95% of people out there are terrified of natural gas. Just get the NG conversion valve specifically meant for the hurricane. http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/natural-gas-valve-for-hurricane-burner.html Oops, they are out of stock.

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE_CONVERSION_VALVE_P2214.cfm

The only difference between this and the propane connection is the size of the tiny hole that shoots gas into the burner.

You're going to find that the hose itself to the connect to the house is the most expensive part. I priced out a 1/2" x 20 foot flex hose with disconnect and it was $150. Screw that.
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If it were me, I'd just get the propane and drill the orifice until I had the flame I wanted.



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