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tarromantis 12-04-2012 10:21 PM

Best chiller
 
Hey guys,

During my adventures on the web I saw this http://jadedbrewing.com/collections/...ucts/the-hydra A 3 minute chill time for 5 gallons? Awesome! I have not seen anything close to this any where on the web for an immersion chiller. I wanted to know what you guys thought before I decided to go ahead with this.

Thanks

jakenbacon 12-04-2012 10:24 PM

My sweet lord look at that thing...

ndinh 12-04-2012 10:36 PM

If it truly works with only 18 gallons of water/3 minutes, then it's pretty amazing. I have a 50 footer and it took forever and wasted of 50 gallons of water so I just decided on a 50 plate chiller. Now I'm chillin' with about 25 gallons and 5 minutes (claimed 2-3 minutes). Just be aware of their claimed time and the actual time when you're at home.

Hamsterbite 12-04-2012 10:52 PM

I would just check the dimensions to be sure you can easily get it in your kettle if you have temp probes, dip tubes etc that could keep you from easily dropping it in. The last thing you want is to be fighting with wrangling it into place in your boiling wort.

I mention this because I recently upgraded a turkey fry kettle with a brewmometer, and being asomewhat tall/narrow kettle, there are some clearance issues with my existing chiller.

Other than that, seems legit. I see they are breaking up the cooling zones into thirds. With typical chillers, all the cool incoming water starts circulating at the bottom and exits at the top, so the top half of the kettle is being cooled significantly slower as the cooling water is already quite warm by that point.

Hamsterbite 12-04-2012 10:53 PM

And it does state that in order to achieve those results you must stir.

Yooper 12-04-2012 10:58 PM

Keep in mind that the chilling power of an immersion chiller is necessarily limited by your tap water pressure and temperature. If your tap water is, say, 90 degrees in the summer, any chiller will be less effective.

But if you have cold ground water, a larger chiller makes sense.

passedpawn 12-04-2012 11:08 PM

Immersion chillers are not very effective unless you move the wort across the coils. It then essentially becomes a counterflow chiller. You can bob it up and down, but you're just trying hard to be a counterflow chiller then.

Counterflow chillers are FAR superior to immersion chillers because they require both the movement of the wort and the coolant.

Plate chillers are a very good type of counterflow chiller. Chillzilla type counterflow chillers that use a tube-inside-a-tube arrangement work great too, and you can build one yourself. Counterflow chillers require a pump, although they can be used with gravity if the cooling fluid is cold enough and the wort flow is choked low enough.

There's a Jamil-style immersion chiller that has a re-circulation option that sorta combines the simplicity of the immersion chiller with a pumped wort option. Not sure how this works, but I've heard great things.

I'm a plate chiller user. It is PERFECT for the way I brew. Very compact too. I have a Blichmann Therminator.

passedpawn 12-04-2012 11:13 PM

That Jaded thing the OP posted looks like a counterflow. It seems there's copper tubing for both coolant and wort. Description says no pump needed, but I dunno. I wouldn't buy without seeing some reviews first. Caveat emptor!

Brew-boy 12-04-2012 11:15 PM

I love me my Jamil-Style chiller setup. It goes from boiling to 60f in about 15 minutes.

jCOSbrew 12-05-2012 04:06 PM

I use the duda diesel 20 plate long chiller and get similar numbers. Use <20 gallons of 55deg water to chill >5 gallons of wort to <70 deg F in 3-5 minutes. In the winter the cooling time is limited by the pump flow rate. In the summer with higher water temps, I reduce the wort flow rate to achieve the desired temp into the fermenter and use a little more water.

I used the plate chiller with gravity feed on the first batch, but a pump is very convenient for cleaning. You can get a plate chiller and a small US Solar pump for similar cost ($150 total).


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