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04-25-2008, 06:46 PM
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Beer Fish Tank
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I've just started brewing a while ago but I've been keeping fish for a while now. Which brings me to my idea, when making a 5 gal batch put a gal or so of washed sanitized sand into the bottom of a 6 gal carboy during the second fermentation to bring the liquid level up and also give the yeast some little pockets to settle into at the bottom, in the sand, hopefully resulting in even less sediment in the final product. Anyone heard of anything like that done before or any reason it's a horrible idea?
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04-25-2008, 06:49 PM
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Not sure that it would be needed, but I would want sterilized, not sanitized. If I was really going to do something like this I would boil the sand!
I'd suggest you play around with fining agents if you feel you need clearer beer.
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04-25-2008, 06:53 PM
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Mmmmmmm. Fish Poo Pale Ale.
Sand in the Bottle Lager.
Somethin' Fishy Schwarzbier.
Don't do it Kellerbrau.
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04-25-2008, 06:53 PM
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Errr... bad idea. You will undoubtedly siphon up sand when you go to bottle/keg. You would have to stay so far away from the sand when racking to bottles/kegs, you wouldn't be able to get near the beer you could out of the carboy, etc.
Lastly, I still think you would get some sand no matter how careful. So instead of yeast sediment, you'd get sand sediment in your brews. I know some less-seasoned beer drinkers are hesitant about the yeast sediment, I can only imagine if you told them the bottle had grains of sand in it!!
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04-25-2008, 06:54 PM
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I would think adding sand would INCREASE the sediment in your fermenter. I guess I don't understand what you are trying to do. +1 on looking up "fining agents" (irish moss, whilfloc tablets, insinglass, gelitin, etc.) or "cold crashing" if you are looking for clearer beers.
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04-25-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by deathweed
I would think adding sand would INCREASE the sediment in your fermenter. I guess I don't understand what you are trying to do. +1 on looking up "fining agents" (irish moss, whilfloc tablets, insinglass, gelitin, etc.) or "cold crashing" if you are looking for clearer beers.
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Or patience and being careful when racking normally does the trick!
I've fined some beers with gelatin and had great results, but not much clearer than any beer I brewed and didn't start drinking until 6-8-10 weeks later.
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04-25-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RoaringBrewer
Or patience and being careful when racking normally does the trick!
I've fined some beers with gelatin and had great results, but not much clearer than any beer I brewed and didn't start drinking until 6-8-10 weeks later.
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Agree 100% Just throwing out ideas 
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04-25-2008, 10:19 PM
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You're creating a solution that has no problem.
get the right equipment (a 5gal secondary), or just be gentle. extra headspace doesn't guarantee any oxidation issues.
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04-26-2008, 10:50 AM
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I think if you used the coarse pebble sand it would be alright, but again, you really don't need to. I'm talkin the 1/8" and bigger grains.
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04-26-2008, 01:07 PM
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Let us know how it goes......... 
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