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Old 11-12-2008, 10:59 PM   #11
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I didn't mean to be so critical, I guess I just meant that the grey interface was kind of boring.....maybe different "skins" would be cool. As far as the probe connect, I meant where it hooks up to the unit. It looks like there's a naked connection where you insert the probe wires on the terminal. Maybe a "plug in" like on a 1394 cable....or even like a cellphone charger?
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Be critical, be constructive, but by all means, tell use what you really think. Both Ideas are great. That is exactly to kid of input we are looking for. S.


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Does the software support integrated PID? Also what is the total analog and digital I/O's, I couldn't tell from the other page whether there were an additional 4 inputs besides the 4 mV inputs for thermocouples or not. Any plans for expansion modules or an advanced model? That may be your way to seperate them is to sell an advanced module with more I/O's and heavier software, and then the current unit with a lite version.
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The answer to the first question is yes. You can select between PID operation or differential control for each probe. For the second question there are four 5Volt discrete inputs, and six outputs. The discrete inputs are for whatever you want them to be on the rig, level sensors, buttons, switches, or whatever else you could think of. There are also 4 web inputs. These are button on the user interface. S.


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Thanks for the response, are you allowed to take detailed pics of the module, or is that not permitted with the beta. If so I would appreciate a picture or two of the module (terminals) since it doesn't show on their site.

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Thanks for the response, are you allowed to take detailed pics of the module, or is that not permitted with the beta. If so I would appreciate a picture or two of the module (terminals) since it doesn't show on their site.
Well, I don't see any harm in it, all the secrets are inside the little black box. LOL. So here is a illustration that is an accurate representation. A beta tester from another forum created this. Afterwork, I will post a pic.



The terminals are a screw down compression type, pretty standard for the automation industry. Cheers. S.
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Slnies,

Thanks that diagram is all I needed, don't worry about the pics.

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For the level sensors what is the maximum amount of current this unit can handle per sensor connection? I may have missed these specs somewhere posted above. My thinking is only 5-20ma and let it control SSR's for pumps, panel lights or alarms. Will this unit also learn the system it's operating then learn to come up to temps without overshooting these temps?
As posted above the connection to the temp probe must be "O" ringed or waterproof? Would be nice if they also had 90 degree connections to the probes reducing the snag and destroy factor. As with anything new minor adjustments until the final product is ready.
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For the level sensors what is the maximum amount of current this unit can handle per sensor connection? I may have missed these specs somewhere posted above. My thinking is only 5-20ma and let it control SSR's for pumps, panel lights or alarms. Will this unit also learn the system it's operating then learn to come up to temps without overshooting these temps?
As posted above the connection to the temp probe must be "O" ringed or waterproof? Would be nice if they also had 90 degree connections to the probes reducing the snag and destroy factor. As with anything new minor adjustments until the final product is ready.
You have an early x-mas item to play and learn about.
I like the part about once all informations entered then you can move around without a laptop attached full time.
Well, I will be honest, as far as what each terminal will handle, amp wise, I could not tell you. I will have to ask. As far as what the unit is designed for in that respect, I can tell you that it will handle SSR's without a problem, and level sensors, as I borrowed one from a buddy for a day to play with a program. As far as what the machine is capable of, your imagination and your understanding of a state machine will be your guide. That is to say, however you program it with the "simple to use" state machines, it will do. The PID functions are not auto tune. Once it is tuned it will be very consistent every time. The settings that it comes with, are really, very good anyway, so in my experience with it, I have not had to touch it. As far as automatic operation goes, if you program it that way, all you have to do is hit start, and it will go. This is how my fermentation program is set up.
As far as water proofing goes, that is a good idea. I planed on putting my BCS-460 in an enclosure in the near future to make everything neat. Good feedback, keep it coming. S.
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Output current is rated at 20ma per output. Currently there is no autotune feature, although that might come in a future firmware update if there is interest.

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Here are some more pic's. Today I installed the fittings so that I could hook the temperature probe up to the MLT, and while I was at it I put the pump on a SSR as well.





So the first three pictures are the new fitting, the probe before install, and the probe installed. All in all a pretty quick and easy deal, just screw it in. The last picture is the full set up,ready to go. All that remains is to do, is a water test. Then I can do a full brew. Once I have that under the belt, I will add the HLT, and do it all over again.
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Nies; you should add a tie strap to secure that unit down unless a "G force" test is to be included in your product test. If I understand your last reply to me it does not learn but is "nats azz accurate" so that means any brewing corrections must be done by the brewer entering their information into it with corrections if needed for their desired end results.
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