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Old 01-30-2009, 08:35 AM   #141
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Question about how you are planing to use a temp prob on the outflow of your herms. Is your coil inside the HLT or a seperate pot. thanks

tarheels; I was planning on one 4" probe in the side of the HLT around the middle of the keggle between the HERMS coils plus using one of the 8" or 9" bronze outboard racing props of 40's/50's era I have a from the family racing, I must add this item to this project. The prop will be connected to a variable speed stir gearmotor. Zero to 82 rpm motor speed controled from a tennis ball machine I salvaged. It has a 90 VDC gearmotor with controller off 120 VAC. On the discharge of the HERMS coil between the HLT and MLT another 4" probe to get the exact temps entering the MLT when the HERMS circulation pump and stir motor are running. The plan I have is to heat the HLT with 11KW, two 5.5KW elements not in direct contact inside the HLT's water. This quick temp rise controlled by the probe on the side of the HLT until close to the set temp. After i've come close to set temp in the HLT then switch to the MLT and repeat the same heating operation. When the HLT and MLT are near the set temps then have one 5.5KW element under each, the MLT and HLT energized to heat until the set temp is reached. The HERMS pump and stir prop will run thru out the mash process. This way my maximum wattage will be 11KW for both elements, stir motor, the BCS-460 unit a few odd LED lights I might add. Like I posted above going to a 6" long probe instead of 4" but placing it somewhere like 6" off the bottom of the MLT, the temp in the MLT should be rather stable thru out the total mash time, well that's the plan.
With 186 sq/in surface area not counting added area from the dished bottom of the keggles call it 190 sq/in surface area plus electrically heated this allows for low even heating temps from the bottom without hot spots or extreme high temp differences on the bottom that a propane or NG burner might add to the mash. This should result in a low stable temp thru out the MLT. Just a probe order change instead of just four 4" probes from Adam I would add two 6" probes to my order. This way i'll have a probe length choice plus a 6" probe in hand for the future conical fermenter. I will add sight tubes to all the keggles on this project.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:19 AM   #142
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Any pics of systems using the controller. Just purchased mine and will start putting things together in the coming weeks. I'm sure lots of questions to follow.

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Old 03-20-2009, 04:39 AM   #143
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For no particular reason, i have been posting on the northern brewer forum predominantly on this subject so I have a couple of posts that speak both abstractly and concretely on the subject.

The Northern Brewer Homebrew Forum • View topic - Test Drive a BCS-460 Temperature Controller

The Northern Brewer Homebrew Forum • View topic - iphone control my brewery...

and I think the one you really want is this one that show's some blood:

The Northern Brewer Homebrew Forum • View topic - Got my beta unit! (was: Temp Controller Beta testers needed)

Where is your brewery conceptually? Mine is all electric except from 168->boil temps. HERMS using a Chillzilla as the heat exchanger. 10 Gallons, ~3000 watts.

Another (local) bcs owner and I have been talking about documenting some of the stuff we have built, it's fun like having an erector set again, making stuff and learning about random things like the difference between 120V AC led's(really called voltage indicators) and DC led's and how to use them, and so forth. He has been building a nice box to contain all the electrical which while not necessary, has proven to be an entertaining game of one-upsman-ship, he is currently beating me hands down. But like any good race, i haven't really started, so I get to steal all his ideas, then it will be his turn to one up me.

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Old 03-20-2009, 08:52 AM   #144
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In fact, one of our beta testers is developing an iPhone app.
in case you didn't notice the thread above the iphone app is the new thread, it has been submitted to apple and the need for a laptop of any sort while brewing should be greatly diminished i like to think if you have an ipod touch or iphone. And if it's not I will release a newer version of Brew Buddy, the iphone interface to the bcs. I will post a link to the itunes store when the application makes it's way through the apple approval process.
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:25 PM   #145
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Would it be compatible with an ipod touch as well?

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Old 03-20-2009, 02:33 PM   #146
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Yeah, and you wouldn't have that pesky monthly contract to go with it...

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I have Tmobile.

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Old 03-20-2009, 02:42 PM   #148
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I guess I meant you wouldn't have a NEW pesky monthly contract.
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:41 AM   #149
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In case you missed my other thread, the iphone app for the bcs-460 is now in a released 1.0 state: http://software.druidhillroad.com for screen shots, video and itunes link.

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Old 04-26-2009, 06:05 PM   #150
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In case you missed my other thread, the iphone app for the bcs-460 is now in a released 1.0 state: http://software.druidhillroad.com for screen shots, video and itunes link.
That is sweet. Call the rig and get the water started, then call the wife to tell here that you will be brewing the second you are home. My wife might kill me, but the cool factor might make up for the added pain.
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